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If Elected, Would Warren Be the First Native American President?
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Norman Alexander
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According to Donny, she would be the first Disney Princess elected president.
dudalb
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To the Orignal Poster:
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Way too obvious dude.way too obvious.
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Way too obvious dude.way too obvious.
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theprestige
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Sometimes it's fun to ask a simple question, if only to see how complicated some people try to make their answer.
smartcooky
Penultimate Amazing
No.
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Distracted1
Philosopher
There's a term for that, isn't there?
Gargoyling....
No, that's not it.
Orcing......
Not that either.
Gremlining....
Closer, but still not quite.
Jungle Jim
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This is not one of those times.
theprestige
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If you're not having fun, you don't have to respond.
Porpoise of Life
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You know what? Master Blaster is running Bartertown. People thought auntie Entity was a bit too standoffish and shady.
Also: no. Not even in a Rachel Dolezal kind of way.
Also: no. Not even in a Rachel Dolezal kind of way.
Venom
Philosopher
No.
I don't believe in claiming some tiny portion of your ancestry as your ethnic identity.
Also Obama isn't the first black president. He's (maybe) the first mixed black (Kenyan) and white American president.
I don't believe in claiming some tiny portion of your ancestry as your ethnic identity.
Also Obama isn't the first black president. He's (maybe) the first mixed black (Kenyan) and white American president.
theprestige
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I keep thinking this joke will get old for me, but it just doesn't:
Billy Clinton was the first black president. Barack Obama was the first woman president. Hillary Clinton would have been the first gay president. Elizabeth Warren will be the first Native American president.
And Donald Trump, of course, is the first human president.
Norman Alexander
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theprestige
Penultimate Amazing
I wouldn't expect an Australian to understand a joke premised on a uniquely American situation, but this might help:
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/1998/10/05/comment-6543
eeyore1954
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I suspect others have had as much Indian blood.
We have had a president with an adopted Indian child.
We have had a president with an adopted Indian child.
Venom
Philosopher
I cringe when I see that.
Silly Green Monkey
Cowardly Lurking in the Shadows of Greatness
Am I not the product of all of my ancestors?
The times they are a changin'------ but they change slowly.
Venom
Philosopher
Sure, but I know people invariably get pigeonholed into one of a few select "racial groups" when push comes to shove.
It just makes me wince.
Roger Ramjets
Philosopher
One-drop rule
You may not 'believe' in it, but for part of US history it was a fact. And not by choice for those being labeled.
Obama was born in Hawaii and is a US citizen. His father was a black Kenyan - and Kenya is in Africa, so...
African Americans Law and Legal Definition
Venom
Philosopher
^^the reason I don't like it when legal definitions are used to draw hard lines.
I think it stymies this sort of discussion.
Regarding the one-drop rule, I used to be a member of this majority African American Facebook group, and occasionally you would see Pan-Africanist Afrocentrists of various types, particularly the so-called hoteps, claiming damn near everyone with ostensibly black ancestry.
"He can say the n-word he's Dominican", even though he's light-skinned, even though nobody would ever mistake him for a black man, even though his ancestors were not subject to American racism, even though they never really assessed "how much" of West Africa he had in him, if any at all.
I think it stymies this sort of discussion.
Regarding the one-drop rule, I used to be a member of this majority African American Facebook group, and occasionally you would see Pan-Africanist Afrocentrists of various types, particularly the so-called hoteps, claiming damn near everyone with ostensibly black ancestry.
"He can say the n-word he's Dominican", even though he's light-skinned, even though nobody would ever mistake him for a black man, even though his ancestors were not subject to American racism, even though they never really assessed "how much" of West Africa he had in him, if any at all.
Roger Ramjets
Philosopher
Yep - there's nothing like citing a hard fact to stymie 'this sort of discussion'.
You claimed that Obama wasn't black. Let alone that a cursory glance would prove otherwise, he is African-American by both legal definition and popular usage. Your claim is based on a peculiar reasoning that is generally only employed by those who wish to deny the facts. The question is why do it?
I can think of two likely explanations,
1. Racism. "Obama isn't really black, so he can't speak for blacks. Their leader is a fraud. He's almost as white as we are!"
2. Partisanship. "Obama is a Democrat, therefore we must take every opportunity to denigrate him - no matter how ridiculous!"
And the base will lap it up because facts don't matter, and any ammunition is welcomed. After all, "Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!"