Cont: Brilliant Light Power Going To Market - Free Energy Generator Part 3

[Red Baron Farms]

So you're saying dihydrino isn't the only gas in this whole process?

Yeah, we have already used the unicorn poop analogy, why not the unicorn farts analogy?

But seriously, none was ever seen, we have literally no characteristics for the supposed compound, no melting point, no boiling point, no density figures at STP. Nothing. It's all fantasy and Mills makes up whatever characteristics he wants it to have whenever he wants and it matters little if he contradicts himself, because there literally is no such thing to test and see if he is correct or not. He wants it to be dark matter he simply proclaims it dark matter. He needs it to be baryonic matter, he just proclaims it baryonic matter. This is because Dihydrinos don't exist, and they don't exist because hydrinos don't exist. Since they don't exist he can make up whatever imaginary characteristics he wants for them.

As I have said many times since the very first posting on this thread, the emperor has no clothes.

 

[tlp]

So you're saying dihydrino isn't the only gas in this whole process?

There is mostly argon, some hydrogen for fuel that converts to hydrinos. Hydrinos can combine with similar hydrinos (need to be same level hydrinos).

 

[Red Baron Farms]

There is mostly argon, some hydrogen for fuel that converts to hydrinos. Hydrinos can combine with similar hydrinos (need to be same level hydrinos).

why? You tested them and found they were the same? oops they escaped! ROTFL


BTW Welcome to the forum tlp. oh and just so you know, here we ask for evidence in order to treat any controversial posts with respect.

So please provide your evidence.

 

[jadebox]

There is mostly argon, some hydrogen for fuel that converts to hydrinos. Hydrinos can combine with similar hydrinos (need to be same level hydrinos).

Hydrinos don't exist.

 

[The Man]

Mills has explained some methods to catch hydrinos in hydrino compounds in US20110104034A1 patent application, but recently he has hinted that a better method is now invented. New patent application is most probably made but not yet published.

Which of those patents specifically exclude such production under the conditions of any of the generator set ups? What are those specific limitations?

ETA: Oh sorry, Welcome to the forum and thread tlp.

ETA2

In the gas cell, the hydrinos are reduced to hydrino hydrides by the hydrino reducing reagent. In the gas discharge cell, the hydrinos are reduced to hydrino hydrides by 1.) contacting the cathode; 2.) reduction by plasma electrons, or 3.) contacting the hydrino reducing reagent. In the plasma torch cell, the hydrinos are reduced to hydrino hydrides by 1.) reduction by plasma electrons, or 2.) contacting the hydrino reducing reagent. In one embodiment, the electron source comprising the hydrino hydride reducing reagent is effective only in the presence of hydrino atoms.


According to another aspect of the present invention, novel compounds are formed from a hydrino hydride anion and a cation. In the electrolytic cell, the cation may be either an oxidized species of the material of the cell cathode or anode, a cation of an added reductant, or a cation of the electrolyte including a cation comprising the catalyst. A cation of the electrolyte may comprise a cation of the catalyst. In the gas cell, the cation comprises either an oxidized species of the material of the cell, a cation comprising the molecular hydrogen dissociation material which produces atomic hydrogen, a cation comprising an added reductant, or a cation present in the cell including the catalyst. In the discharge cell, the cation includes either an oxidized species of the material of the cathode or anode, a cation of an added reductant, or a cation present in the cell including the catalyst. In the plasma torch cell, the cation includes either an oxidized species of the material of the cell, a cation of an added reductant, or a cation present in the cell including the catalyst.

 

[jonesdave116]

Hydrinos don't exist.

A reasonable point, well made.

 

[The Man]

There is mostly argon, some hydrogen for fuel that converts to hydrinos. Hydrinos can combine with similar hydrinos (need to be same level hydrinos).

Hydrinos don't exist.

That's what makes them all the "same level hydrinos".

 

[jonesdave116]

Happy New Year to everybody on GMT.

 

[jsfisher]

Mills has explained some methods to catch hydrinos in hydrino compounds in US20110104034A1 patent application, but recently he has hinted that a better method is now invented. New patent application is most probably made but not yet published.

Are you suggesting a new patent application from Mills having to do with hydrinos will fair any better than his previous applications having to do with hydrinos?

...
And welcome to the ISF.

 

[JeanTate]

My hilite.

Mostly, with the exception of the highlighted part. There's no violation of the 2nd law of thermodynamics. If you release 204eV to go from H -> H[1/4], then the return trip from H[1/4] -> H requires 204eV. And since the fractional states are considered dark matter, one would expect this reaction is quite common since most of the universe is dark matter.

The H -> H[1/4] hydrino reaction produces harmful EUV and soft X-ray radiation. However, these wavelengths get absorbed within 1mm or so of any type of atmosphere and aren't energetic enough to create any kind of radioactive by-products. As long as the reactor vessel isn't breached, then the reaction is very safe. The only waste product is dihydrino gas, which is difficult to contain, lighter than air and super stable. It will simply float away into space. The reaction itself is self limiting in the event of a reactor failure. Starving the reaction of source hydrogen fuel or suppressing the arc current will snuff out the reaction. The reaction has been run for many years in Mills lab. With the exception of wrecking the occasional heavy Molybdenum container nothing that would indicate a health hazard has been observed.

optiongeek, as Red Baron Farms pointed out, you have encountered the same conundrum as markie faced, some time ago (which you'd be well aware of if you had heeded my advice and spent some time actually reading the posts in this thread, and its predecessors) ... if hydrinos are dark matter, they'll sink to the center of the Earth. They also won't form compounds.

If they can form a dihydrino compound, they will emit electromagnetic radiation, as - like ordinary hydrogen - the molecule can rotate and vibrate.

And you might consider learning some astronomy; Mills claims about hydrinos being dark matter are laughable ... so much ignorance in so few words. If it makes you feel better, markie, in parroting Mills, made a complete fool of himself on this topic too.

 

[JeanTate]

Thanks.

Re this: "the (1 + 1/n) factor multiplying the spherical harmonic term arises from the trapped photon in the excited electron"

How does a free electron know how many transitions it will undergo, before it reaches the ground state? As I'm sure you know, an electron may "jump" directly to the ground state, or undergo potentially a (countable) infinite number of jumps (a cascade). As each transition results in the emission of a photon, the free electron must have from one to a (countable) infinite number of "trapped photons", right?

Not sure I fully comprehend this question. However, equations for all of the transitions up to n_i <= 20 are provided in the tables 2.4 - 2.18, as well as a description of the Stark effect, excited state lifetimes and line intensities, Lamb shift, etc., etc. If there's something about the excited states for which a classical description isn't provided in Chap 2, can you explain what that is?

Take Balmer-alpha. That's a transition from n=3 to n=2 (if in emission; from n=2 to n=3 if in absorption). From one excited state to another.

A hydrogen atom in the n=2 excited state will emit a Lyman-alpha photon as it transitions to the n=1 stable state.

One electron, two photons.

Per you (parroting Mills), this cannot happen: an excited state is an electron with a trapped photon. If the photon is emitted, it ain't trapped any more. So where did the second photon come from?

Instead of this cascade, an excited hydrogen in the n=3 state can transition directly to the n=1 state, emitting a Lyman-beta.

One electron, one photon.

And so on.

How does the electron know how many photons to carry with it?

 

[Myriad]

The only waste product is dihydrino gas, which is difficult to contain, lighter than air and super stable. It will simply float away into space. The reaction itself is self limiting in the event of a reactor failure. Starving the reaction of source hydrogen fuel or suppressing the arc current will snuff out the reaction. The reaction has been run for many years in Mills lab. With the exception of wrecking the occasional heavy Molybdenum container nothing that would indicate a health hazard has been observed.

There was nothing that indicated any health or environmental hazard from lead, DDT, radium, asbestos, cigarette smoke, thalidomide, or partially hydrogenated oils either. Until there was.

Mills has claimed hydrino can form compounds. Mills has claimed that such compounds have properties different from similarly composed compounds with normal hydrogen. Mills has claimed that such compounds could have the capability to treat cancer. Therefore, Mills himself believes hydrino can form biologically active compounds that can alter the functioning of human cells.

If hydrino power weren't just delusional nonsense, it would be a potential existential threat to all life on the planet. Mills's cells would be less welcome in New Jersey than unapproved unlicensed homemade nuclear reactors. After all, the dangers posed by the latter are at least already known and understood.

 

[LTC8K6]

The H -> H[1/4] hydrino reaction produces harmful EUV and soft X-ray radiation. However, these wavelengths get absorbed within 1mm or so of any type of atmosphere and aren't energetic enough to create any kind of radioactive by-products. As long as the reactor vessel isn't breached, then the reaction is very safe. The only waste product is dihydrino gas, which is difficult to contain, lighter than air and super stable. It will simply float away into space. The reaction itself is self limiting in the event of a reactor failure. Starving the reaction of source hydrogen fuel or suppressing the arc current will snuff out the reaction. The reaction has been run for many years in Mills lab. With the exception of wrecking the occasional heavy Molybdenum container nothing that would indicate a health hazard has been observed.

Fortunately your post will not replace the years of required safety and health testing of the devices, and of their fuel and by-products.

Testing which has not even started yet, should Mills claim for the Nth time to have something commercially ready any time soon.

 

[LTC8K6]

Why would Mills want to let dihydrino gas simply float away?

 

[LTC8K6]

Don't expect a SunCell available for domestic use within the next eight years. Years of regulatory processes to go through. It will be used in industry first.

Industry does not have lots of regulations for equipment? And worker safety?

That's news to me.

 

[markie]

My hilite.


optiongeek, as Red Baron Farms pointed out, you have encountered the same conundrum as markie faced, some time ago (which you'd be well aware of if you had heeded my advice and spent some time actually reading the posts in this thread, and its predecessors) ... if hydrinos are dark matter, they'll sink to the center of the Earth. They also won't form compounds.

If they can form a dihydrino compound, they will emit electromagnetic radiation, as - like ordinary hydrogen - the molecule can rotate and vibrate.

And you might consider learning some astronomy; Mills claims about hydrinos being dark matter are laughable ... so much ignorance in so few words. If it makes you feel better, markie, in parroting Mills, made a complete fool of himself on this topic too.

The irony here is that you don't know what dark matter is, yet presume to know that it would "sink to the center of the Earth."

Alternatively you could be more open minded and realize that dark matter could well interact electromagnetically with baryonic matter as per
https://arxiv.org/pdf/1803.06698.pdf

An excess 21-cm absorption signal is a clear sign of baryon - dark matter (b-DM) scattering, since alternative explanations are untenable.

 

[MEequalsIxR]

The irony here is that you don't know what dark matter is, [snip]

There seems to be a lot of that irony.

 

[markie]

Take Balmer-alpha. That's a transition from n=3 to n=2 (if in emission; from n=2 to n=3 if in absorption). From one excited state to another.

A hydrogen atom in the n=2 excited state will emit a Lyman-alpha photon as it transitions to the n=1 stable state.

One electron, two photons.

Per you (parroting Mills), this cannot happen: an excited state is an electron with a trapped photon. If the photon is emitted, it ain't trapped any more. So where did the second photon come from?

Instead of this cascade, an excited hydrogen in the n=3 state can transition directly to the n=1 state, emitting a Lyman-beta.

One electron, one photon.

And so on.

How does the electron know how many photons to carry with it?

OptionGeek did not say such a thing "cannot happen".
A trapped photon as per Mills is two dimensional, stuck so to speak to the inside of the orbitsphere. It is clearly not in an ordinary photon state. In such an orbitsphere - type condition, matter, energy and field meet. One may consider a 'trapped photon' to be a superposition of free space photons, or conversely a single photon with partitionable qualities. At least I do.

 

[markie]

There seems to be a lot of that irony.

I hear there is a lot of irony at the "center of the earth".

 

[MEequalsIxR]

I hear there is a lot of irony at the "center of the earth".

I think that would be attractive.