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Ed George Soros and others targetted by Terrorist

uke2se said:
What's important is if (that - let's get real) the guy was motivated by the hostile climate Trump has created towards his political opponents and the press. This is what happens when half a country loses its mind.

This is also something that will not be learned/cared about by Trumpists.
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No, I won't quite accept your conclusion.

I do totally accept the claim that Trump is encouraging attacks on the media, Democrats and so on. I think he's a bastard for doing so.
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But, no, I don't accept that he or his supporters are really responsible for this. Because, as it is likely to turn out, this was a single nutcase.

There are plenty of reasons to loathe Trump. Among the reasons are that he indirectly encourages such really bad acts. And also, it seems to me, that he doesn't care about this fact.

But he's not quite culpable for this attack. Plenty of things related to it, but not the attack itself.
 
phiwum said:
No, I won't quite accept your conclusion.

I do totally accept the claim that Trump is encouraging attacks on the media, Democrats and so on. I think he's a bastard for doing so.
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But, no, I don't accept that he or his supporters are really responsible for this. Because, as it is likely to turn out, this was a single nutcase.

There are plenty of reasons to loathe Trump. Among the reasons are that he indirectly encourages such really bad acts. And also, it seems to me, that he doesn't care about this fact.

But he's not quite culpable for this attack. Plenty of things related to it, but not the attack itself.
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By this logic, ISIS isn't a terror organization. They simply have a higher than average population of lone nuts.
 
Travis said:
I await someone saying that having the van covered in Trump decals definitely means it is all a false flag because a real Trump fan bomber would not be so obvious.
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I think it's adorable that you're presenting the very fact you're horrified by as if it's really happened.

For ****'s sake, man, wait for the other side to descend to your expectations. Maybe they will, and then you could claim the higher ground, but until then, you just look like a jerk. Seriously.
 
phiwum said:
No, I won't quite accept your conclusion.

I do totally accept the claim that Trump is encouraging attacks on the media, Democrats and so on. I think he's a bastard for doing so.
.
But, no, I don't accept that he or his supporters are really responsible for this. Because, as it is likely to turn out, this was a single nutcase.

There are plenty of reasons to loathe Trump. Among the reasons are that he indirectly encourages such really bad acts. And also, it seems to me, that he doesn't care about this fact.

But he's not quite culpable for this attack. Plenty of things related to it, but not the attack itself.
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As QAnon exemplifies, many of his supporters are like this guy, if not as violent. This is what real Trump Derangement Syndrome is - deranged support in a cult of personality.
 
LSSBB said:
As QAnon exemplifies, many of his supporters are like this guy, if not as violent. This is what real Trump Derangement Syndrome is - deranged support in a cult of personality.
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But why would Qanon supporters be violent? By their own conspiracy, the president is arresting the people they want to see go down.
 
phiwum said:
No, I won't quite accept your conclusion.

I do totally accept the claim that Trump is encouraging attacks on the media, Democrats and so on. I think he's a bastard for doing so.
.
But, no, I don't accept that he or his supporters are really responsible for this. Because, as it is likely to turn out, this was a single nutcase.

There are plenty of reasons to loathe Trump. Among the reasons are that he indirectly encourages such really bad acts. And also, it seems to me, that he doesn't care about this fact.

But he's not quite culpable for this attack. Plenty of things related to it, but not the attack itself.
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So he's not culpable despite this individual sending bombs to the very people that Trump also despises, talks about on television, etc? I get the whole "I don't want to make judgments" schtick, and playing the middle of the road, but seriously.

This man was a Trump supporter, that much is obvious. Even if it's a loan nut, it's a loan nut that wasn't targeting these people until Trump started going after them.

As far as your bomb theory as well. It's more likely he got one of these to blow, and used the same style for the rest of them. I doubt he intended them to be harmless, or else why even bother adding gunpowder? More than likely he used the same template for all of them.
 
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Are those pictures of Michael Moore, etc in scope sights on the side? I wonder if he sent anything to them. I can't make out the other one as clearly.
 
alfaniner said:
One major piece of evidence as to the motives of the bomber. I did see one sticker that clearly said CNN SUCKS!
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There are several good pictures in the various Twitter threads posted. It's all pro-Trump anti Hillary and the press.
 
uke2se said:
What's important is if (that - let's get real) the guy was motivated by the hostile climate Trump has created towards his political opponents and the press. This is what happens when half a country loses its mind.

This is also something that will not be learned/cared about by Trumpists.
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Maybe he was motivated by the hostile climate that progressives have created. Labeling everyone on the right a "nazi" to excuse violence against them. Hillary Clinton saying there can be no civility while Republicans hold office. Etc.

He probably wasn't motivated by this guy, or he would have sent real bombs and actually tried to kill someone.
 
Ziggurat said:
And James Hodgkinson was a Bernie Sanders supporter. How much blame do you want to put on Sanders for Hodgkinson?
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Was Bernie Sanders referring to his political opponents as "enemies of the state" and insulting them at every single political rally he had, well into his Presidency? No? Was Bernie saying he'd pay lawyer bills for those that caused physical damage to people opposing him? Did Bernie share any of the same traits Trump has? No?

Thanks Zigg, moving on.
 
alfaniner said:
One major piece of evidence as to the motives of the bomber. I did see one sticker that clearly said CNN SUCKS!
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Yep. Wondee where he got that idea?

That, to me, is the one that Trump can't hide from. He can't say, "I didn't have anything to do with that."
 
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