Ed George Soros and others targetted by Terrorist

[Craig4]

Especially when it is a woman that S&A's idol Trump is so attracted to. It was funny when she pointed out that Trump calling her Horseface implies that he is into bestiality!

Well, we already knew he was into piss. I suspect there's no depraved act Trump wouldn't try.

 

[kookbreaker]

BTW plead guilty and cried in court

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/21/...mp-mail-bomber.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur

 

[Mumbles]

BTW plead guilty and cried in court

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/21/...mp-mail-bomber.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur

Awwww...Poor as - guy...

 

[Checkmite]

How was he supposed to know that posting explosives to people, including prominent government representatives, could cause so much trouble?

And he's just a kid too. Are you going to tell me YOU never did dumb things when you were (*checks*) 57?

 

[Checkmite]

Cesar Sayoc has been sentenced to 20 years in prison for his mailbomb spree against Democrat politicians and famous progressives.

 

[The Great Zaganza]

Cesar Sayoc has been sentenced to 20 years in prison for his mailbomb spree against Democrat politicians and famous progressives.

... way below the Sentencing Guidelines.

 

[Trebuchet]

What, no pardon yer?

 

[theprestige]

... way below the Sentencing Guidelines.

Sentencing guidelines for a real letter bomb, or for a fake letter bomb?

 

[The Great Zaganza]

Sentencing guidelines for a real letter bomb, or for a fake letter bomb?

We know they were real bombs.
The fact that they might not have been wired to blow doesn't change the fact that they could have exploded in the wrong circumstances.
If you only want to send a warning don't send actual explosives.

 

[PhantomWolf]

... way below the Sentencing Guidelines.

Minimum was 10 years. The guy plead guilty, and apparently has mental health issues. Prosecutors asked for minimum + 10 and got exactly that.

Where's the issue?

 

[quadraginta]

Minimum was 10 years. The guy plead guilty, and apparently has mental health issues. Prosecutors asked for minimum + 10 and got exactly that.
Where's the issue?

Not exactly.

From the link above;

District Court Judge Jed Rakoff to 20 years in a federal prison with five years supervised release where he must participate in out-patient drug and mental health treatment.

As Rakoff read his decision, Sayoc placed his head down on the defense table and sobbed into his hands. He then gestured a cross with his right hand, lifted his head to the ceiling and mouthed, "Thank you."

After a 90-minute sentencing hearing that included testimony from two doctors about Sayoc's state-of-mind, the judge determined a life sentence was "inappropriate" and a 10-year mandatory minimum was not enough. Prosecutors recommended a life sentence plus 10 years to set an example.

Seems like the judge was a bit more sympathetic to the mental issues than the prosecution.

Given that it was a consideration at all, I'mm not sure that twenty years in prison with a follow-up of outpatient mental health treatment is an appropriate treatment regimen.

Using our prisons as mental illness treatment storage facilities isn't a policy I find appropriate.

Profitable, perhaps, but maybe not the best solution for the mentally ill.

 

[TurkeysGhost]

Not exactly.

From the link above;

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Seems like the judge was a bit more sympathetic to the mental issues than the prosecution.

Given that it was a consideration at all, I'mm not sure that twenty years in prison with a follow-up of outpatient mental health treatment is an appropriate treatment regimen.

Using our prisons as mental illness treatment storage facilities isn't a policy I find appropriate.

Profitable, perhaps, but maybe not the best solution for the mentally ill.

There seemed to be a bit of conversation during the sentencing hearing about the ability of the bombs he sent to actually detonate. Though the bomb contained explosive material, there was essentially no way for them to be detonated as built by our aspiring terrorist.

There was some discussion whether Sayoc was a competent enough bomb maker to make functional bombs and chose not to. Seems his defense was trying to argue he chose not to in order to argue for a less severe sentence.

I'm guessing the judge was convinced that Sayoc did not intend to murder any of his targets, thus the lighter sentence.

With any luck he'll die or be so infirm of old age by the time of release we don't have to worry about him again.

https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1158465683010859010

 

[Safe-Keeper]

BTW plead guilty and cried in court

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/21/...mp-mail-bomber.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur

How was he supposed to know that posting explosives to people, including prominent government representatives, could cause so much trouble?

And he's just a kid too. Are you going to tell me YOU never did dumb things when you were (*checks*) 57?

Surely they can't throw him in jail. They'd ruin the life of this poor handsome young man!

 

[theprestige]

We know they were real bombs.
The fact that they might not have been wired to blow doesn't change the fact that they could have exploded in the wrong circumstances.
If you only want to send a warning don't send actual explosives.

We've already discussed this. I'm not seeing any new arguments.

Without a trigger and a detonator, I don't consider it a real bomb. These things were not designed, built, or intended to explode. They were intended to frighten. That is a heinous crime that deserves severe punishment. Which it got. I just don't think it deserves the same punishment as attempted murder, which is what a real letter bomb would be.

It's kind of a moot point, though, since apparently he did get the minimum sentence plus some.