Saudi journalist disappears in embassy, believed murdered

[The Great Zaganza]

That can't be. That might be a plausible accident rate but it can't be a death rate.

it was the accident rate in 2017.
The deaths numbered around 7,000.

 

[zooterkin]

One person dies every minute in a car crash in Saudi Arabia. What were the "suspicious" circumstances in this one?

It's pretty high, but not that high. Closer to one per hour, not one per minute, based on figures from 2009.

 

[quadraginta]

And they're all despot-run hellholes! Especially 2 and 3!

At least Canada is a polite despot-run hellhole.

 

[Belz...]

At least Canada is a polite despot-run hellhole.

Trudeau's not that bad.

 

[quadraginta]

it was the accident rate in 2017.
The deaths numbered around 7,000.

7,000. Half a million.

That's close enough, isn't it?

 

[Elagabalus]

Until last year I thought that espionage was best depicted in Smileys People.
Now I think it's actually a combination of Saw and Austin Powers.


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It certainly is an amazing story.

It's heart rendering I tells ya'!

 

[The Great Zaganza]

this cartoon is spot-on:

https://theweek.com/cartoons/802585

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

Trump tweets

"Just spoke with the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia who totally denied any knowledge of what took place in their Turkish Consulate. He was with Secretary of State Mike Pompeo..."

""...during the call, and told me that he has already started, and will rapidly expand, a full and complete investigation into this matter. Answers will be forthcoming shortly."

Delay until the story is no longer in the headlines then quietly walk away.

 

[Andy_Ross]

Trump Tweets

"Secretary of State Mike Pompeo returned last night from Saudi Arabia and Turkey. I met with him this morning wherein the Saudi situation was discussed in great detail, including his meeting with..."

"...the Crown Prince. He is waiting for the results of the investigations being done by the Saudis and Turkey, and just gave a news conference to that effect."

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

Trump Tweets

"Secretary of State Mike Pompeo returned last night from Saudi Arabia and Turkey. I met with him this morning wherein the Saudi situation was discussed in great detail, including his meeting with..."

"...the Crown Prince. He is waiting for the results of the investigations being done by the Saudis and Turkey, and just gave a news conference to that effect."

So Pompeo found out (supposedly) they are looking into it. Like I said, delay until the story fades from public view.

 

[Eddie Dane]

So Pompeo found out (supposedly) they are looking into it. Like I said, delay until the story fades from public view.

I’m amazed that he is actually following some sort of rational PR strategy instead of simply inserting his foot in his mouth.


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[Childlike Empress]

Pompeo news conference yesterday:

[...] QUESTION: Did you learn anything concrete about what they learned about – anything new they learned about Khashoggi?

SECRETARY POMPEO: No. They want to complete their investigation, and that they will have a process. I’m sure they will have their own prosecutors looking at this as well since it took place in their country, albeit on consulate property.

QUESTION: Have you heard or asked to hear the alleged audio on the actual murder?

SECRETARY POMPEO: I don’t have anything to say about that.

QUESTION: Do you believe that there actually was an incident that took place in the consulate after your talks here in Turkey?

SECRETARY POMPEO: Mr. Khashoggi is missing.

QUESTION: And do we think he’s missing from the consulate? Is that --

SECRETARY POMPEO: I’m not going to get ahead of – we have two countries conducting investigations. They’ll do that, and the world will get a chance to see the facts that they turn up through their investigations. [...]

That's as far as he goes. And he'll gonna give everyone "a handful" of days to do that thorough investigation.

Stomach turner galore:

SECRETARY POMPEO: I’m not going to speculate. Obviously, if someone – if a country engages in an activity that is unlawful, it’s unacceptable. No one is going to defend activity of that nature. We’ll see what happens.

That one needs a giant laughing dog emoticon, coming from a US State Secretary.

 

[citizenzen]

Stomach turner galore:

SECRETARY POMPEO: I’m not going to speculate. Obviously, if someone – if a country engages in an activity that is unlawful, it’s unacceptable. No one is going to defend activity of that nature. We’ll see what happens.

Nobody is going to DEFEND that?

Talk about a low bar.

 

[Dr. Keith]

Pompeo news conference yesterday:




That's as far as he goes. And he'll gonna give everyone "a handful" of days to do that thorough investigation.

Stomach turner galore:




That one needs a giant laughing dog emoticon, coming from a US State Secretary.

I feel like we are on the same page here and it is making me uncomfortable. interesting times, indeed.

 

[alfaniner]

Khashoggi = "Kah-shog-jee".

It's not that hard.

 

[Dancing David]

A human walks into a building and never is seen to exit, and there is no evidence of their well being since they entered the building.

However 'Lets investigate....'
However "Lets not rush to judgement...'

The man ******* was killed or disappeared.
******** will stall and pretend

 

[Elagabalus]

I feel like we are on the same page here and it is making me uncomfortable. interesting times, indeed.

Agreed. However, tbf, I would expect the replies to questions about an ongoing investigation to be pretty nebulous in general.

 

[Trebuchet]

Khashoggi = "Kah-shog-jee".

It's not that hard.

A local Nooz anchor on a Seattle station keeps saying "Kashooski". Apparently she thinks he was Polish.

 

[Babbylonian]

How could there be any doubt that this was done on the direct orders of the Crown Prince? He had motive and it could be argued that he is literally the only person with the means to send 15 men into a Saudi consulate with orders to do anything, let alone brutally torture, murder, and dismember a human being.

 

[Childlike Empress]

Excellent piece over at OffGuardian:

Jamal Khashoggi: or why you don’t trust the MSM even if they say what you want to hear