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The Behavior of UK Police officers.

Information Analyst said:
The degree to which Baylor has ignored the various iterations of that question speaks volumes.
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The Home Office answered that question for me. A substantial but unknown number of communities has been conceded to Muslim parallel societies and aren't beholden to UK law.

"Such is the protective veil surrounding these religious tribunals (or councils, as Islamic jurists prefer to call them) that, as a recent Home Office review conceded, not even the Government knows how many operate in this country.

What we do know is that sharia courts are proliferating across Britain and are held in many towns and cities with sizeable Muslim communities.

As the Government review states, critics regard them as anathema to British values because they ‘keep many Muslims isolated, entrenched and with little social stake in wider British citizenship and life’."
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...s-secretive-sharia-courts-special-report.html

As for the "getting people on the Internet to prove something" challenge...well, the top comment from that article--with 1056 upvotes and only 27 downvotes--corroborates everything I've been saying thus far.

"At first one would say 'beyond belief' but if you have lived in this country over the years then you would not in anyway be surprised! A country within a country."
 
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Nessie said:
The Protestant/Catholic divide as best exampled by football and Rangers vs Celtic, is pretty well known. Religious bigotry has and is a big issue for many.



The posters in the campaign do not say what you suggest they are saying. There is no reference to any religion. The big problem in Scotland Glasgow is, as I said, Protestant vs Catholic.
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FYP

Most Hearts/Hibs fans along with the sheep lovers up north in Aberdeen don't believe in this sectarian idiocy, nor do the fans in Dundee.
 
Baylor said:
As I mentioned upthread, that is ancient history and it was before the fearless, childless leaders of Europe put their multicultural utopia plan into overdrive. The guy was an EDL member so he was a Muslim Uncle Tom.
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Expected dodge noted.
 
Baylor said:
The Home Office answered that question for me. A substantial but unknown number of communities has been conceded to Muslim parallel societies and aren't beholden to UK law.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...s-secretive-sharia-courts-special-report.html

As for the "getting people on the Internet to prove something" challenge...well, the top comment from that article--with 1056 upvotes and only 27 downvotes--corroborates everything I've been saying thus far.

"At first one would say 'beyond belief' but if you have lived in this country over the years then you would not in anyway be surprised! A country within a country."
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Why do you wish to do away with a literally centuries old right?
 
Baylor said:
The Home Office answered that question for me. A substantial but unknown number of communities has been conceded to Muslim parallel societies and aren't beholden to UK law.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...s-secretive-sharia-courts-special-report.html

As for the "getting people on the Internet to prove something" challenge...well, the top comment from that article--with 1056 upvotes and only 27 downvotes--corroborates everything I've been saying thus far.

"At first one would say 'beyond belief' but if you have lived in this country over the years then you would not in anyway be surprised! A country within a country."
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You are conflating two separate things: Sharia "law" (it isn't), and no-go areas. There are no such thing as the latter, and the former is one of the many different forms of conciliation process that is acceptable before cases go to court. It isn't applicable to criminal activity, but is a voluntary arrangement in cases of civil disagreement.

I am an architect, and administer contracts between clients and builders all the time. Built into every contract is a dispute resolution process, in which the parties agree to trying conciliation or arbitration to resolve disputes prior to going to court. Sharia "courts" hold the same place in law as these processes. It is not the sinister thing you like to believe. As an atheist, I would rather they didn't exist, and that no religious body ever gets to determine anything. However, for some people Sharia "courts" (they're not courts at all, they're more like councils) are a useful way of resolving disputes before they escalate into something requiring recourse to the law. They actually spend most of their time sorting out "divorces" of people who aren't actually officially married.

Now, of course you will ignore all that and just blather on about Sharia and no-go areas as if I had said nothing.
 
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Baylor said:
The Home Office answered that question for me. A substantial but unknown number of communities has been conceded to Muslim parallel societies and aren't beholden to UK law.........
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That is simply a lie. A 100% falsehood. It is not the case at all, in any way. That won't stop you repeating it, which confirms you as a liar.

The only people living in the country who aren't subject to UK law are foreign diplomats, as is the case in every country in the world.
 
Darat said:
Why do you wish to do away with a literally centuries old right?
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Because I believe in women's rights, gay rights, animal rights, victim's rights, etc. I have the conviction to stand up for these rights. I'm sorry you don't.

[T]he lack of protection for these women under the country’s law that has led to sharia councils springing up in the UK. According to the thinktank Civitas, there are about 85 in existence. Some are informal gatherings of “authoritative figures”; others are formal setups attached to mosques....


It’s not often we can say that British Muslim women’s rights should match those of the women in Muslim countries.
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https://www.independent.co.uk/voice...untries-religious-rulings-quran-a8064796.html
 
MikeG said:
You are conflating two separate things: Sharia "law" (it isn't), and no-go areas. There are no such thing as the latter, and the former is one of the many different forms of conciliation process that is acceptable before cases go to court. It isn't applicable to criminal activity, but is a voluntary arrangement in cases of civil disagreement.
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It's certainly voluntary for the man. For the woman, less so.
 
Baylor said:
Because I believe in women's rights, gay rights, animal rights, victim's rights, etc. I have the conviction to stand up for these rights. I'm sorry you don't.
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That is what is known around these parts as a non sequitur.
 
baron said:
It's certainly voluntary for the man. For the woman, less so.
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Yes I agree there is some legitimate concerns about ensuring people (especially those in potentially vulnerable groups) know their rights and the legal implications and limits of voluntary arbitration. And I do know there have been targeted campaigns to try and reach potentially vulnerable people.

But unless we want to strip all of us of our right to agree to voluntary arbitration there isn't much more we can do.

And removing the right to agree to voluntary arbitration would mean our courts would be overwhelmed within days.
 
baron said:
Are they also targeted against mosques? Nah, we both know that answer to that.
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I do not know where the adverts have been placed in relation to any religious building and neither do you.

And is it right for the police to be supporting literature that 'has a dig' (i.e. provokes, inflames, mocks) any portion of society?
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My words, have a dig, meaning to warn and the target is bigots, who come from any and all religions.
 
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