Atheists destroy churches, attack the faithful

The Big Dog said:
you kidding????

"The campaign corresponds with a drive to “Sinicize” religion by demanding loyalty to the officially atheist Communist Party and eliminating any challenge to its power over people’s lives."

What an odd claim when the very quoted sentence says there is....
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I think it speaks volumes that you think that sentence shows a causal connection. It doesn't even assert one.

The party allows religions that are loyal to the party, that seems like a very poor form of militant atheism if you ask me. But its seems a pretty strong authoritarian regime.
 
Dr. Keith said:
I think it speaks volumes that you think that sentence shows a causal connection. It doesn't even assert one.

The party allows religions that are loyal to the party, that seems like a very poor form of militant atheism if you ask me. But its seems a pretty strong authoritarian regime.
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They are cracking down on all religions. I have posted the new internet restrictions, by way of example

At this point, i will just start citing post numbers because the same uniformed arguments that i have destroyed are just getting repeated.
 
The Big Dog said:
As awful as these whataboutism arguments are, I know that are all aware, because I have repeatedly posted articles discussing it, that the Chinese (oops, "racist" lololol) have specifically stated that that this crackdown on religious in China is directly related to its policy officially readopted in 2016 to sinicize religion and bring it under the jackboot of the Official Atehist State.

As noted previously, this is not at all a minor persecution, in fact the internet controls tighten the noose on every single person of religious faith in China.
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That does not address the point that several of the articles you posted reference state sponsored churches that are not being harassed because they have pledged loyalty to the party. In other words, this isn't an attack on religion as religion, but religion as an alternative to party loyalty. Religion is fine, just make sure you are loyal to the party first.

No wonder Trump admires this guy so much.
 
Dr. Keith said:
That does not address the point that several of the articles you posted reference state sponsored churches that are not being harassed because they have pledged loyalty to the party. In other words, this isn't an attack on religion as religion, but religion as an alternative to party loyalty. Religion is fine, just make sure you are loyal to the party first.

No wonder Trump admires this guy so much.
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false
 
The Big Dog said:
do not care.
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And if you are a white Anglo-Saxon protestant from one of the denominations tolerated by the Christian Dominion moment I doubt you'll find a reason TO care. Your previous posts make me suspect you won't get too bent out of shape if you find a Christian Theocracy in the USA is rounding up Atheists and Muslims to put them in concentration camps.
 
The Big Dog said:
They are cracking down on all religions.
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And in a way they are right. The superstitious nonsense needs to be eliminated for once and for all. Their methods are a different matter. Education is the way. That naturally eliminates belief in the sky fairy.

The Big Dog said:
I have posted the new internet restrictions, by way of example
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Not anyone else's problem if you are unable to work that one out.

The Big Dog said:
At this point, i will just start citing post numbers because the same uniformed arguments that i have destroyed are just getting repeated.
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Nah. You know well why it is that post numbers are a stupid way to reference posts. Don't pretend you don't.

And well done. You succeeded in destroying your very own superstition.

Go pray.
 
The Big Dog said:
post 729
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What in particular was false in that post?

Obviously not the Trump stuff. I provided quotes earlier in the thread. He really admires Xi.

The rest was what I learned from reading the articles you so generously provided to the thread. Start with the WaPo one if you would like a refresher.
 
halleyscomet said:
You claim that atheism is responsible for the crimes committed in China. What is it about atheism that, in your opinion, might be giving rise to such behavior?

Why do you believe Chinese atheists are committing such atrocities when atheists in, for example, Norway are not?
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Minoosh said:
This is a question I'd like to see addressed, but odds are it won't be.
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Your'e right, it wasn't.
 
halleyscomet said:
And if you are a white Anglo-Saxon protestant, heterosexual male from one of the denominations tolerated by the Christian Dominion movement I doubt you'll find a reason TO care. Your previous posts make me suspect you won't get too bent out of shape if you find a Christian Theocracy in the USA is rounding up Atheists and Muslims, and gays and women who've had abortions to put them in concentration camps.
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FTFY

That would be totes different, since THEY would be doing God's work.
 
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It is odd, the person who has been solidly and comprehensively critical of the Firm Militant Atheist's crackdown on human rights gets accused by the Firm Militant Atheist's apologists of hypothetically not caring about hypothetical human rights violations.

people defending human rights violations claim people criticizing the human rights violations of being hypothetically hypocritical.

LOGIC!
 
The Big Dog said:
It is odd, the person who has been solidly and comprehensively critical of the Firm Militant Atheist's crackdown on human rights gets accused by the Firm Militant Atheist's apologists of hypothetically not caring about hypothetical human rights violations.

people defending human rights violations claim people criticizing the human rights violations of being hypothetically hypocritical.

LOGIC!
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Careful not to over bait your hook.

What are your thoughts on all christians raping children? Does it bother you? Why is the christian agenda so geared towards pedophilia?
 
Nay_Sayer said:
What are your thoughts on all christians raping children? Does it bother you? Why is the christian agenda so geared towards pedophilia?
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That's a bit unfair. I think the agenda is more geared towards protecting the reputation of the church over any individual, no matter how innocent.

It's not the rape that is shocking, there are bad people in every group. It is the systematic cover-up over decades that allowed the bad actors to continue to prey on parishioners and their children so long as they were able to keep it quiet enough. That is what is shocking.
 
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