Atheists destroy churches, attack the faithful

I think that you may have overlooked the most important part of TBD's sentence:

abaddon said:
The Big Dog said:
And atheists are outraged when your correspondent suggests that there might be cause and effect, indeed much more outraged than the actual human rights abuses themselves.
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You are not anyone's "correspondent" for anything.
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TBD is starting to have doubts!!!
 
dann said:
I think that you may have overlooked the most important part of TBD's sentence

TBD is starting to have doubts!!!
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Yeah, no.

You see that is why we writers call "understatement" because your correspondent wanted to put what we writers call "emphasis" on the atheists' grossly misplaced outrage.

It is a literary thing.
 
The Big Dog said:
Yeah, no.

You see that is why we writers call "understatement" because your correspondent wanted to put what we writers call "emphasis" on the atheists' grossly misplaced outrage.

It is a literary thing.
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No, no, you very clearly admitted you had doubts.
 
Educating the Public About Atheism

It seems fairly obvious that most of the worst bigotry faced by LGBT persons comes about thanks in large part to fundamentalist Christianity. The same can be said for anti-atheist bigotry. There's also the issue of visibility. Just as many Americans used to claim to have never known a homosexual person, many still claim to have never encountered an atheist. They may acknowledge the existence of atheists in some distant "blue state" but not in the part of "real America" they inhabit. And yet, we are there. Like many in the LGBT community, many of us try to conceal this part of our identity because we fear the consequences of revealing it.
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Worldly suffering is a trial, but the Christians will have the last laugh as they'll become martyrs for their faith.

Or maybe Muslims will have the last laugh for the same reason.

They can't both be right though. At least one of these groups is going to hell.
 
Minoosh said:
Worldly suffering is a trial, but the Christians will have the last laugh as they'll become martyrs for their faith.

Or maybe Muslims will have the last laugh for the same reason.

They can't both be right. At least one of these groups is going to hell.
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Y'all sure you are in the correct thread? This one is about Atheist China's “comprehensive war against religion."
 
The Big Dog said:
Y'all sure you are in the correct thread? This one is about Atheist China's “comprehensive war against religion."
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Yeah, but most religions are wrong, according to members of other religions - so don't those souls need re-education? Aren't the atheists saving them from their own error? In the past, Christians subjugated pagans for this very reason - bringing them the word of Christ to save them from their idolatry. Just as Muslims extracted statements of faith in Islam, at sword point. So now you can legitimately holler "whataboutism!" But maybe if you started these threads in good faith, the fruits would be more edifying. Maybe not, though; other posters do take the bait that you dangle in front of them. Then you are off and running with an arsenal of sarcasm, mockery, "tee-hees" and "protips" (although I admit I'm basing this on other threads; I am not caught up on this one).

It's fair enough to want an argument, but you IMO do not make good-faith efforts to advance your argument. Even if you are pointing out a valid fallacy, you do it in a way that deliberately puts people down, in posts dripping with condescension. (As for example, your did in your response to me). If you dropped some of that attitude maybe more people would take you seriously.
 
Minoosh said:
Yeah, but most religions are wrong, according to members of other religions - so don't those souls need re-education? Aren't the atheists saving them from their own error? In the past, Christians subjugated pagans for this very reason - bringing them the word of Christ to save them from their idolatry. Just as Muslims extracted statements of faith in Islam, at sword point. So now you can legitimately holler "whataboutism!" But maybe if you started these threads in good faith, the fruits would be more edifying. Maybe not, though; other posters do take the bait that you dangle in front of them. Then you are off and running with an arsenal of sarcasm, mockery, "tee-hees" and "protips" (although I admit I'm basing this on other threads; I am not caught up on this one).

It's fair enough to want an argument, but you IMO do not make good-faith efforts to advance your argument. Even if you are pointing out a valid fallacy, you do it in a way that deliberately puts people down, in posts dripping with condescension. (As for example, your did in your response to me). If you dropped some of that attitude maybe more people would take you seriously.
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I struck out everything except the part where our correspondent apparently accidentally stumbled close to the subject of Atheist China's “comprehensive war against religion."

To answer: absolutely not and indeed that argument is ludicrous. That is like saying that because some people might be sick, we killed them all to save them.
 
The Big Dog;12433557And atheists are outraged when your correspondent suggests that there might be cause and effect said:
And what do you think about a person who feigns concern and simply uses human rights violations as an excuse to attack a group they hate? Basically exploiting a tragic situation simply so they can play gotcha games? A situation they would not even know about had it not included one of their favorite buzzwords...

I personally would also find that behavior appalling.
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kali1137 said:
And what do you think about a person who feigns concern and simply uses human rights violations as an excuse to attack a group they hate? Basically exploiting a tragic situation simply so they can play gotcha games? A situation they would not even know about had it not included one of their favorite buzzwords...

I personally would also find that behavior appalling.
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I struck out everything that was grossly inaccurate.

/the part where it is suggested that I would not have heard about this... yeah, it was hidden in the Washington Post. Oh mercy.
 
The Big Dog said:
I struck out everything except the part where our correspondent apparently accidentally stumbled close to the subject of Atheist China's “comprehensive war against religion."

To answer: absolutely not and indeed that argument is ludicrous. That is like saying that because some people might be sick, we killed them all to save them.
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Well I at least know you read my response.

I find it an interesting question - whether someone prone to belief is closer to God by being any religion at all; or whether they are farther from God because they have embraced a false god. If the CCP did kill them all, by the lights of their own religion some would have a special place in heaven. Not all of them, of course, because some picked the wrong god.
 
The Big Dog said:
I struck out everything that was grossly inaccurate.

/the part where it is suggested that I would not have heard about this... yeah, it was hidden in the Washington Post. Oh mercy.
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That's funny. I asked what you would think of such a person, not that you were such a person. Guilty conscience?
 
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