I admit to having skimmed this thread, so apologies if these points have been made before.
Firsltly, TBD, if you are stating that the human rights
abuses being committed in China are the result of the government being Marxist atheist, how do you explain the freedom of religion enjoyed in Marxist atheist-ruled Vietnam? If atheism is the root and cause of this
oppression, it would surely be occuring there as well. I lived in Vietnam for 18 months, and I can assure you that religious beliefs are thriving there.
Secondly, if having atheists in power results in
oppression of religions, how do you explain the lack of religious persecution in Australia, New Zealand, Greece, Croatia, Belgium, the Czech Republic and France, all of which countries have had atheist heads of state in recent times?
You have dismissed the totalitarian nature of the Chinese government as a factor in the
persecution of religions, and posited that atheism is the deciding factor. If this is true, then all of the countries I have cited should have had the same thing happen. Do please explain why this is not the case, as this situation would seem to fatally undermine your argument.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_religion_in_Vietnam
https://mic.com/articles/118192/7-w...-can-have-an-atheist-president-too#.5JuRPMm4B
I should hope religious freedom should be thriving in Vietnam, having witnessed the horrors that were perpetrated by the glorious atheist state of Cambodia and Pol Pot.
Vietnam not only witnessed these atrocities, it actually put an end to them. Odd, from your POV, as you would have thought that Vietnamese Marxist atheists would have been applauding them. Is it possible your characterisation of atheists is wrong?
And while we are all super happy to witness the finest string of whataboutism that anyone is likely to see,
You appear to have a misapprehension of the meaning of the term 'whataboutism'. Whataboutism seeks to excuse wrongdoing by one party by pointing to similar wrongdoing by another, opposite party.
As this is in no way what my post was about, I suggest a little research into this term.
Before I go any further, I would like to unequivocally condemn all human rights abuses, including those committed by atheists.
Your argument is that atheists in power oppress religions. By showing you that this is not the case in many instances, the obvious thing to do would be to concede the point, rather than introduce irrelevancies and then ignore it as if the job was done. Just saying.
Can I mention at this stage that I unequivocally condemn all human rights abuses, including those by atheists? Just so we're clear.
it would be awesome if people could at least pretend to care about the ongoing religious human rights violations in China that are a direct product of Xi’s sinfication of religious faith in China.
Firstly, in case there is any confusion, I want to state for the record that I condemn absolutely all human rights abuses, even those by atheists. In case I wasn't clear.
Secondly, I would like to draw your attention to the highlighted parts of my post. I fail to see how my use of the words 'abuses', 'oppression' and 'persecution' could be construed as support.
Now, as for the Muslims in detention, I don't know if you're aware of this, but this is not just a religious issue. The Muslims in question are a separate ethnic group- the Uighurs, a Turkic group. They are not at all happy about being a part of China, and were only actually finally incorporated into China in the late C19th. The area where they live is called Xinjiang, which means 'new territory', just to rub it in, it seems. The Chinses are cracking down on the Uighurs because of their nationalistic aspirations: Islam is just a part of their identity. There are large numbers of ethnic Han Chinese who are also Muslim- the Hui- and they are not receiving anything like the persecution that the Uighurs are getting. I have visited Xinjiang and witnessed first-hand the oppression there, and also the Hui areas: the contrast was striking.
I care deeply about the situation there, and I try to keep awareness raised of this situation: the Uighurs don't receive nearly as much attention as, say, the Palestinians.
I care because I am opposed to all human rights abuses: not sure if I've mentioned that yet.
PS: I unequivocally condemn and oppose all human rights abuses, even those committed by atheists. Did I forget to mention that?
