Atheists destroy churches, attack the faithful

The good news is that people have decided to stop posting pictures of Stalin the godfather of gosateizm and murder of millions of religious people.
 
Might surprise you, but some of us are not Chinese. You appear to be blaming the wrong 'non group'.

From your link.

"Last May, the Communist Party organ Global Times reported on the launch by the TSPM/CCC of a “five-year plan on the Sinification of Christianity from 2018 to 2022.”

“According to the plan, it will increase the level of Sinification of Christianity, including digging into contents in the Bible that are in line with core socialist values, then turning them into easily understood reading materials,” the newspaper reported.

“It will also endeavor to increase the proportion of core socialist values, patriotism and Chinese history into the curriculum of China-based theology institutes as well as promote Chinese elements in preaching, religious poems and songs, clothing and church designs,” Global Times said.

“Core socialist values will also become a major part of Christian preaching, and trainings of preachers will be organized.”"
 
fagin said:
Might surprise you, but some of us are not Chinese. You appear to be blaming the wrong 'non group'.

From your link.

"Last May, the Communist Party organ Global Times reported on the launch by the TSPM/CCC of a “five-year plan on the Sinification of Christianity from 2018 to 2022.”

“According to the plan, it will increase the level of Sinification of Christianity, including digging into contents in the Bible that are in line with core socialist values, then turning them into easily understood reading materials,” the newspaper reported.

“It will also endeavor to increase the proportion of core socialist values, patriotism and Chinese history into the curriculum of China-based theology institutes as well as promote Chinese elements in preaching, religious poems and songs, clothing and church designs,” Global Times said.

“Core socialist values will also become a major part of Christian preaching, and trainings of preachers will be organized.”"
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Oof, that is some next level cherry picking.

I mean to get to the overt Orwellian level propaganda, one has to pass by things like this:

The U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom (USCIRF) weighed in on the situation this week, condemning Beijing’s treatment of Christians as well as Uighurs in Xinjiang, Buddhists in Tibet, and practitioners in the Falun Gong meditation movement.

The independent statutory watchdog pointed to reports on “escalating religious freedom violations,” including the closure of the Zion Church in the capital, as well as mass detentions of Uighurs in “re-education” camps.
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And yet, our correspondent chooses to cut and paste from a press release from the official "Communist party organ Global times."

"It said those actions and others “signal an alarming escalation in persecution of citizens in China under Xi Jinping. USCIRF condemns the Chinese government’s ongoing brutal and systematic targeting of religious communities for their beliefs.”

Say, lets quote what the Chinese propaganda service has to say instead! Glorious Atheism.
 
fagin said:
Might surprise you, but some of us are not Chinese. You appear to be blaming the wrong 'non group'.

From your link.

"Last May, the Communist Party organ Global Times reported on the launch by the TSPM/CCC of a “five-year plan on the Sinification of Christianity from 2018 to 2022.”

“According to the plan, it will increase the level of Sinification of Christianity, including digging into contents in the Bible that are in line with core socialist values, then turning them into easily understood reading materials,” the newspaper reported.

“It will also endeavor to increase the proportion of core socialist values, patriotism and Chinese history into the curriculum of China-based theology institutes as well as promote Chinese elements in preaching, religious poems and songs, clothing and church designs,” Global Times said.

“Core socialist values will also become a major part of Christian preaching, and trainings of preachers will be organized.”"
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My Darwiness! Those pesky Marxists are promoting Christianity! :jaw-dropp


And FYI, TBD never shots in his own foot prosthetics.
 
In spite of the numerous protestations made by 'The Big Dog', I am still quite unconvinced that atheists have killed millions upon millions of religious people over the years.

While it is clearly is true to say that that millions and millions of religious people have been murdered over the years, but considering that it is so difficult to determine if a person is actually an atheist or not and that actual atheists have always been rather rare, then it is quite incorrect to say that atheists have killed millions and millions of people over the years.

Conversely, it is well documented that all sorts of theists have killed millions and millions of people over the years for any number of reasons (including religious reasons).

Therefore, if 'The Big Dog' is trying to say that atheism produces murderers, then 'The Big Dog' is quite wrong.
 
Crossbow said:
In spite of the numerous protestations made by 'The Big Dog', I am still quite unconvinced that atheists have killed millions upon millions of religious people over the years.

While it is clearly is true to say that that millions and millions of religious people have been murdered over the years, but considering that it is so difficult to determine if a person is actually an atheist or not and that actual atheists have always been rather rare, then it is quite incorrect to say that atheists have killed millions and millions of people over the years.

Conversely, it is well documented that all sorts of theists have killed millions and millions of people over the years for any number of reasons (including religious reasons).

Therefore, if 'The Big Dog' is trying to say that atheism produces murderers, then 'The Big Dog' is quite wrong.
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say, here is a super easy way to tell. If a nation is Officially Atheist, that is a pretty "tip off."

/One would have to be profoundly unaware of Soviet and Chinese pogroms over the last century to make such an unbelievably absurd statement. Just shaking my head at the depths people will go to ignore the facts.
 
I haven't followed TBD on other forum threads, so I'm not clear on where this is all supposed to be going?
 
The Big Dog said:
say, here is a super easy way to tell. If a nation is Officially Atheist, that is a pretty "tip off."

/One would have to be profoundly unaware of Soviet and Chinese pogroms over the last century to make such an unbelievably absurd statement. Just shaking my head at the depths people will go to ignore the facts.
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I do not know of any nation which requires all of its inhabitants to be atheists.

So if you can actually identify such a nation, then please do so.
 
sylvan8798 said:
I haven't followed TBD on other forum threads, so I'm not clear on where this is all supposed to be going?
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This thread is for the purpose of discussing the “signal an alarming escalation in persecution of citizens in China under Xi Jinping. USCIRF condemns the Chinese government’s ongoing brutal and systematic targeting of religious communities for their beliefs."

people were outraged that I quoted articles and experts pointing out that Firm Marxist Atheism was a driving factor for Chinese government’s ongoing brutal and systematic targeting of religious communities for their beliefs
 
aleCcowaN said:
Yes. Those pesky Marxists are promoting Christianity! :jaw-dropp


Gesundheit!
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Put aside the whole, "oh for christ's sake, it is rank propaganda, this is bloody obvious" and put aside the actual conduct (not just propaganda) that "the Chinese government’s ongoing brutal and systematic targeting of religious communities for their beliefs," the pesky Marxist are not "promoting Christianity" they are perverting Christianity to promote "core socialist values, patriotism and Chinese history."

Not gonna kid ya, I am a bit stunned that I have to explain this.

Promote Christianity, smfh
 
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I haven't followed TBD on other forum threads, so I'm not clear on where this is all supposed to be going?
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Very simple: Nowhere.

The Big Dog said:
This thread is for the purpose of discussing the “signal an alarming escalation in persecution of citizens in China under Xi Jinping. USCIRF condemns the Chinese government’s ongoing brutal and systematic targeting of religious communities for their beliefs."

people were outraged that I quoted articles and experts pointing out that Firm Marxist Atheism was a driving factor for Chinese government’s ongoing brutal and systematic targeting of religious communities for their beliefs
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This thread is for the purpose of you expressing your hate for atheists, as it's shown in the loaded title you chose "Atheists destroy churches, attack the faithful". It was never about Marxism or Chinese people or culture.
 
The Big Dog said:
say, here is a super easy way to tell. If a nation is Officially Atheist, that is a pretty "tip off."

/One would have to be profoundly unaware of Soviet and Chinese pogroms over the last century to make such an unbelievably absurd statement. Just shaking my head at the depths people will go to ignore the facts.
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So name this nation which requires all of its inhabitants to be atheists.
 
Put aside the whole, "oh for christ's sake, it is rank propaganda, this is bloody obvious" and put aside the actual conduct (not just propaganda) that "the Chinese government’s ongoing brutal and systematic targeting of religious communities for their beliefs," the pesky Marxist are not "promoting Christianity" they are perverting Christianity to promote "core socialist values, patriotism and Chinese history."
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Exactly what Christians do!

Not gonna kid ya, I am a bit stunned that I have to explain this.

Promote Christianity
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No, thanks.

smfh
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You may need a course of antibiotics.
 
aleCcowaN said:
Very simple: Nowhere.

This thread is for the purpose of you expressing your hate for atheists, as it's shown in the loaded title you chose "Atheists destroy churches, attack the faithful". It was never about Marxism or Chinese people or culture.
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Oh dear, the ridiculous "hate speech" claims raise their ridiculous head again.

"loaded" title, wow.
 
Crossbow said:
So name this nation which requires all of its inhabitants to be atheists.
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:eye-poppi

Seriously, how is it humanly possible to go from this:

say, here is a super easy way to tell. If a nation is Officially Atheist, that is a pretty "tip off."

/One would have to be profoundly unaware of Soviet and Chinese pogroms over the last century to make such an unbelievably absurd statement. Just shaking my head at the depths people will go to ignore the facts.
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To this

So name this nation which requires all of its inhabitants to be atheists.
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I never made this claim, nor has anyone made such a claim.

The posts by the atheist apologists in this thread are stunning in how disingenuous they are.
 
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