Cont: Brexit: Now What? Part 5

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Those rats who are deserting the ship just because it seems to be heading into choppy waters aren't the people we want - we want proper patriots like Sir James Dyson who have the best interests of the UK at heart and wouldn't dream of moving their manufacturing base out of the UK for financial reasons.......:rolleyes:
I am sure we can attract true patriots like Aaron Banks to move their companies back to the UK from their current offshore tax havens.
 
I am sure we can attract true patriots like Aaron Banks to move their companies back to the UK from their current offshore tax havens.

Well as President Trump has shown, the best way to increase the amount of tax collected is to significantly lower the rate at which it is imposed. There's no way that could lead to an increase in deficits. :rolleyes:
 
Don’t forget the 25% tax on all imports from the rest of the world.

That’s what the UK will do with all the free trade deals that stampede through the soon to be open gates. It’s easy apparently.
 
Don’t forget the 25% tax on all imports from the rest of the world.

That’s what the UK will do with all the free trade deals that stampede through the soon to be open gates. It’s easy apparently.

I have only recently realised that Little Waster on Badscience hadn't made up the bit about "innovative jams"

Spoilered for being from November 2017

I'm going to post this exchange from Badscience

liverpoolmiss said:
Just as everything looked sorted, another German election is going to **** things right up.


El Pollo Diablo said:
How did everything look sorted?


liverpoolmiss said:
The Brexit thing? Didn't it all get agreed at those negotiations?


Little waster said:
Yep, ages ago.

As David Davis predicted it was the easiest trade deal in history, it was a glorous day.

Representatives from BMW and the major Prosecco producers were on hand to force the EU to rubber stamp whatever Britain wanted and the Eurocrats were so excited that Britain was going to munificently bestow a few billion of their worthless euros on them that they never even bothered to read the small print.

As expected Eire begged on bended knee to be allowed to rejoin the Union in order to share in our glorious new future thus instantly solving any potential border issue, this disappointed James Brokenshire as he had already come up with a genius but ever so simple solution had their been any unexpected hiccups, he'll go far and is a shoe-in for the post of Irish High Commisioner once direct rule of Dublin resumes from Westminister.

Meanwhile, before the EU had even finished squiggling their signatures, Liam Fox was literally mobbed by representatives from the US and China pleading for us to allow them to buy our exports, while a fistfight broke out between South Korea and Japan over who could get first dibs on our pigs ears, as Australia flicked through our catalogue of innovative jams, in what can only be described as childlike, open-mouthed wonder.
As our triumphant Brexiteers swept out of the hall, the EU27 broke into an impromptu round of "For he's a jolly good fellow" in enthusiastic if broken English and as a farewell surprise forced an envelope on a majestic Theresa May. With her usual quiet competence she quickly opened the envelope to find that a tearful European public had had a whipround as an act of gratitude for over a century of English all-round good eggness in standing up for freedom and democracy in the face of various kaisers, dictators and suchlike, something we are far too humble to ever mention ourselves. By happy coincidence the amount raised was the equivalent of £350m per week in perpetuity, enough to completely and permanently solve all the issues with the NHS. There wasn't a dry eye in the room by the end as the Europeans folded themselves into a group hug, comforting each other with the knowledge that although they may have lost the best of them but the relationship with the UK would remain deep, special and strong, and we'd continue to keep a benevolent eye on them.

In other news all the brown people in the UK have quietly packed their bags and returned home, leaving polite notes apologising for all the terrible inconvenience they've caused. As is historically the case, the sudden mass emigration of millions of people has caused the domestic UK economy to boom in a virtuous circle of full employment, low inflation and higher wages, for reasons I obviously don't need to explain.

How did you miss it? :?


liverpoolmiss said:
That's what I thought.

Obviously, with over half the time between referendum and 29 March 2019 exit date already elapsed (51% to be precise), the preparations are well advanced. As you described, the UK quickly agreed basic principles. But then also went on to design the new procedures for customs, tracking immigrants etc and set about building the infrastructure and systems.

Setting a deadline of 4 months before exit day to complete this infrastructure was very sensible. The government is showing a lot of competence in staying on track for this November 2018 target date, because it will allow for testing prior to the 30 March 2019 start date - just like the Olympic Stadium was complete and held its first event four months before the July 2012 opening ceremony. Exporters and importers will be able to prepare with plenty of time before Brexit Day. No doubt there'll be one or two teething problems when it goes live, but at least there won't be queues of lorries from Dover to the M25.

But for lols, just imagine an alternative universe. Suppose by this stage the government had only agreed the most basic questions, such as the Ireland border, rights of EU citizens and the divorce costs! And was still negotiating complicated questions like the new EU trade deal! Just imagine if they were only then, with a year and four months to go, starting to design the complex new infrastructure!

Would be hard to imagine a government that incompetent. And if they were so incompetent they'd only settled the initial questions of NI, EU citizens and costs by now, they'd probably be too incompetent to agree the EU trade deal - let alone prepare for Brexit Day.
 
The cabinet deal sounds.....messy, a fair bit of renaming existing conventions.

Remain in the customs Union for some goods but not others.
Keep free movement of people,
Become a tax haven for services.
No mention but I can't see how we make do without a hard border to prevent smuggling of goods not covered by the customs union.
 
The cabinet deal sounds.....messy, a fair bit of renaming existing conventions.

Remain in the customs Union for some goods but not others.
Keep free movement of people,
Become a tax haven for services.
No mention but I can't see how we make do without a hard border to prevent smuggling of goods not covered by the customs union.

It looks as though there is an inkling of reality starting to creep through. But not enough.
 
That the UK is held hostage to the whims and infighting of a bunch of utter wankers is the scary part.
 
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Farage Tweets

"I’ll have no choice but to return to frontline politics if Brexit is delayed beyond March 2019."


Yes, and I will be forced to return to Premiership Football.
Why not though? He's infinitely more well known than whoever is running the UKIP this week, and with May apparently getting the all-clear to seek a soft Brexit, there's bound to be some unhappy hard brexit Tory MP's looking for a place to go. If ever there was a time for UKIP to try to pounce on some of them, now would pretty much be it.
 
Cabinet agrees 'collective' stance on future EU deal

The cabinet has reached a "collective" agreement on the basis of the UK's future relationship with the EU after Brexit, Theresa May has said.

Ministers have signed up to a plan to create a free trade area for industrial and agricultural goods with the bloc, based on a "common rule book".

They also supported what could amount to a "combined customs territory".

The BBC's Laura Kuenssberg said the plan, agreed after a 12-hour meeting, would "anger many Tory Brexiteers".

Our political editor said the prime minister had "picked a side" by opting for a closer relationship with the EU than many colleagues desired - and she now had to sell it to her party and the other European leaders.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44747444
 
I note that while smaller sectors like agriculture and manufacturing will be "protected" by staying close to the EU, the much larger services industry (where we currently have a large EU trade surplus) will not. Way to think that through :rolleyes:

It's almost if she were pandering
 
I note that while smaller sectors like agriculture and manufacturing will be "protected" by staying close to the EU, the much larger services industry (where we currently have a large EU trade surplus) will not. Way to think that through :rolleyes:

It's almost if she were pandering

The ridiculous negotiating position agreed after 2 years of infighting simply exposes rthe paucity of sense on the Leaver side and in the two major UK parties.

What they propose is a fudge which serves no purpose and has already been rejected by the EU in most part. The leavers want the impossible because they have their own agendas and no interest in the best solution for the UK. The Tories simply want to stay in power by conceding whatever they need to to the cabal of privileged yobs getting rich off destroying peoples livelihoods.

Labour... as usual... havent a scooby doo what their position is.

An ultrahard no deal Brexit seems absolutely inevitable now. A few people are about to get very rich off the back off that while the rest of the country will be eating baked beans and sovereignty for fifty years.

Fingers crossed 6 percent of Scotlands unionists get the message finally and then the rUK can go to hell in their union jack handbasket.

it is definitely coming home people. but not how you think.
 
Thanks for the insight.

The EU will reject this nonsense from May and her dumplings. Then what?

You simply cannot have a cherry picking scenario nor can the UK parliament have a veto on accepting shared regulations.

What they have agreed between themselves is not worth the toilet paper its written on and that took two years to agree.
 
Thanks for the insight.

The EU will reject this nonsense from May and her dumplings. Then what?

You simply cannot have a cherry picking scenario nor can the UK parliament have a veto on accepting shared regulations.

What they have agreed between themselves is not worth the toilet paper its written on and that took two years to agree.

She has already agreed with the EU on the status of the Irish border as a fallback position though


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