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The Trump Presidency VII

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Segnosaur said:
And Trump has gone on the offensive, tweeting:
The Red Hen Restaurant should focus more on cleaning its filthy canopies, doors and windows (badly needs a paint job), rather than refusing to serve a fine person like Sarah Huckabee Sanders.
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Dolt 45 is always offensive.

I mean, on the offense. Again, it's what he said he'd do.

But speaking of dirty restaurants, I seem to remember Mar-a-Lago racking up health code violations a year or two ago. Also, I would reject decorating advise from a guy that lives in a gold-plated apartment on top of a tower with his name plastered on it like a comic book supervillain.
 
Mumbles said:
Dolt 45 is always offensive.

I mean, on the offense. Again, it's what he said he'd do.

But speaking of dirty restaurants, I seem to remember Mar-a-Lago racking up health code violations a year or two ago.
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Happened in the spring of last year.

From: https://globalnews.ca/news/3378490/mar-a-lago-food-safety-violations/
Undercooled meat, potentially dangerous raw fish and broken coolers were among 13 violations found by restaurant inspectors at Mar-a-Lago...

But don't worry, the situation has gotten better. In fact, from just this year:

From: http://www.miamiherald.com/entertainment/ent-columns-blogs/jose-lambiet/article194784609.html
Trump’s club...was cited Nov. 8 for two violations deemed high priority: the lack of smoke detectors capable of alerting the hearing impaired through flashing bright lights; and slabs of concrete missing from a staircase, exposing steel rebar that could cause someone to fall.
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The November inspections of the club’s two main kitchens, meanwhile, yielded a total 15 violations.
 
Segnosaur said:
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Lastly, I wonder of the owner of the restaurant would have a cause to sue Trump over his comments. After all, Trump does have a relatively visible forum that he's using to criticize the restaurant (a place that Trump has likely never visited). And his twitter account is often used for official announcements, so the store owner might be able to claim "the government" is targeting him.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/trump-trash-talks-restaurant-that-booted-sanders-1.3987410
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The former federal ethics chief says it violated federal law for Huckabee to use her official account to trash a private business. Surely the same would apply to Trump, except that his Twitter feed isn't a government account.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...egal-walter-shaub_us_5b301254e4b0321a01d27fe3
 
Pixel42 said:
Watch how all the people who defended the right of bakers to refuse to serve gay people now scream about this restaurant owner refusing to serve a bigot.
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Seconded!

If those stupid idiots who want businesses to be allowed to decline service because of the sexual orientation of a potential customer, then one should expect businesses to be allowed to decline service because of the political orientation of a potential customer as well.
 
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The problem with the Lexington restaurant suing Trump is that they would need to prove damages, whereas I suspect they are gonna get a yuge surge in business.
 
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Bob001 said:
Lastly, I wonder of the owner of the restaurant would have a cause to sue Trump over his comments. After all, Trump does have a relatively visible forum that he's using to criticize the restaurant (a place that Trump has likely never visited). And his twitter account is often used for official announcements, so the store owner might be able to claim "the government" is targeting him.
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The former federal ethics chief says it violated federal law for Huckabee to use her official account to trash a private business. Surely the same would apply to Trump, except that his Twitter feed isn't a government account.
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True, the account Trump used in trashing the restaurant was not the 'official' presidential account. But as I posted, it is an account that has been used in making announcements related to the presidency before. And, the Presidential Records Act considers tweets that are sent from Trump's personal account to require mandatory retention.

https://www.theverge.com/2017/4/3/15168956/donald-trump-twitter-white-house-archives-tweets

At this point I'd say its hard to judge how exactly the courts would rule if they had to determine if Trump's personal twitter account is considered 'presidential'.

Secondly, even if Trump's tweets don't violate the law regarding use of government resources for personal business, there is still the civil case: disparaging a business (that you've never visited) that could cause harm.
 
WilliamSeger said:
The problem with the Lexington restaurant suing Trump is that they would need to prove damages, whereas I suspect they are gonna get a yuge surge in business.
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Quite possible. I know that if I lived in the area I'd consider eating there just as a way to say "I support you".

But then, while they may get more business, I suspect they will also have to deal with more harassment... vandalism, crank calls, Trump supporters doing a 'dine and dash' or not leaving tips as a way to stick it to the staff, etc.
 
The President continues to think he was elected emperor:

President Trump unleashed an aggressive attack Sunday on unauthorized immigrants and the judicial system that handles them, saying that those who cross into the United States illegally should be sent back immediately without due process or an appearance before a judge.

“We cannot allow all of these people to invade our Country,” Mr. Trump tweeted while on the way to his golf course in Virginia. “When somebody comes in, we must immediately, with no Judges or Court Cases, bring them back from where they came.”
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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/24/us/politics/trump-immigration-judges-due-process.html
 
Segnosaur said:
Quite possible. I know that if I lived in the area I'd consider eating there just as a way to say "I support you".

But then, while they may get more business, I suspect they will also have to deal with more harassment... vandalism, crank calls, Trump supporters doing a 'dine and dash' or not leaving tips as a way to stick it to the staff, etc.
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Dolt 45's followers are also attacking the Red Hen in DC, which is entirely unaffiliated with the restaurant in Virginia where Ol' Smokey Eye was asked to leave. They are apparently unable to tell the difference.

No huge shock, first this is mostly internet-based harassment, which often ends up being asinine. Second, if you still support Dolt 45, you likely have little concern for facts, or much of anything beyond chest-thumping and bigotry. Kinda like this fella:

 
Segnosaur said:
Quite possible. I know that if I lived in the area I'd consider eating there just as a way to say "I support you".

But then, while they may get more business, I suspect they will also have to deal with more harassment... vandalism, crank calls, Trump supporters doing a 'dine and dash' or not leaving tips as a way to stick it to the staff, etc.
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One unanswered question is what was she doing there? This is a town of about 7,000, roughly four hours from Washington, and nowhere close to anyplace significant. It is known primarily as the home of two private colleges. Was she on her way somewhere else? Was she visiting somebody in the area? Did her party travel with government drivers and vehicles? Did she go there specifically because she expected trouble? Etc. This wasn't just dinner after work.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lexington,_Virginia
 
ponderingturtle said:
Only if you ever intended them to be reunited.
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That is only one aspect of poor planning. They don't have room for all the people they want to imprison. They didn't have room for al the kids. There was a lot of (and still is) confusion on the ground with different agencies interpreting orders differently. It was ordered with zero planning and zero organizing just like the Muslim ban caused chaos at the airports.

In Trump's world he simply waves his magic wand and he believes the real world is his magic world when it isn't.
 
Bob001 said:
One unanswered question is what was she doing there? This is a town of about 7,000, roughly four hours from Washington, and nowhere close to anyplace significant. It is known primarily as the home of two private colleges. Was she on her way somewhere else? Was she visiting somebody in the area? Did her party travel with government drivers and vehicles? Did she go there specifically because she expected trouble? Etc. This wasn't just dinner after work.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lexington,_Virginia
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Given that she hadn't held a press conference since the prior Monday, it could just be a quick vacation.

Not that I care. She merits all of the politeness of Bull Conner or George Wallace.
 
Don't recall any mention of this before...

The House just passed a farm bill, that changes the requirements for "food stamps", increasing work requirements for those receiving support. (However, unlike previous farm bills that received bipartisan support, this one was split along party line, with the democrats voting against it.)

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politi...-food-stamp-changes-narrowly-passes-the-house

Now, one problem I can see for the Trump administration: There are a lot of rural voters (many of whom supported Trump) that are going to be affected.

From: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...epublicans-would-hit-rural-poor-idUSKBN1JB13D
Of the 50 U.S. counties with the most SNAP-dependent populations, three-quarters are rural. About half of those backed Trump in the 2016 presidential election.

Now, I have no sympathy at all for a Trump voter who finds that his benefits have been cut. (After all, these people should have known what they were getting into when they voted for a racist orangutan who gave little in the way of coherent policy plans during the election.) But, if these rural Trump voters all of a sudden get their benefits cut, maybe that will make them less likely to support the republicans and Trump in the future.
 
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Segnosaur said:
Don't recall any mention of this before...

The House just passed a farm bill, that changes the requirements for "foot stamps", increasing work requirements for those receiving support. (However, unlike previous farm bills that received bipartisan support, this one was split along party line, with the democrats voting against it.)

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politi...-food-stamp-changes-narrowly-passes-the-house

Now, one problem I can see for the Trump administration: There are a lot of rural voters (many of whom supported Trump) that are going to be affected.
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Yep.
If Republicans succeed in their multi-front campaign to cut back on food stamps, the burden will fall heaviest on the working-class, rural white voters on whom President Trump has staked the future of their party.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...stamps-hitting-his-voters-hard/?noredirect=on
 
Segnosaur said:
True, the account Trump used in trashing the restaurant was not the 'official' presidential account. But as I posted, it is an account that has been used in making announcements related to the presidency before. And, the Presidential Records Act considers tweets that are sent from Trump's personal account to require mandatory retention.

https://www.theverge.com/2017/4/3/15168956/donald-trump-twitter-white-house-archives-tweets

At this point I'd say its hard to judge how exactly the courts would rule if they had to determine if Trump's personal twitter account is considered 'presidential'.

Secondly, even if Trump's tweets don't violate the law regarding use of government resources for personal business, there is still the civil case: disparaging a business (that you've never visited) that could cause harm.
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Specifically, disparaging a business for apparently disrespecting a customer based on moral grounds.

Conservatives need to fish or cut bait on whether they consider proprietors standing their moral ground to be heroic or what.
 
blutoski said:
Specifically, disparaging a business for apparently disrespecting a customer based on moral grounds.

Conservatives need to fish or cut bait on whether they consider proprietors standing their moral ground to be heroic or what.
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They are probably fine if they continue to thread the needle with respect to artistic expression.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
That is only one aspect of poor planning. They don't have room for all the people they want to imprison. They didn't have room for al the kids. There was a lot of (and still is) confusion on the ground with different agencies interpreting orders differently. It was ordered with zero planning and zero organizing just like the Muslim ban caused chaos at the airports.

In Trump's world he simply waves his magic wand and he believes the real world is his magic world when it isn't.
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So a few kids die from dehydration what is the problem from the administations point of view?
 
Mumbles said:
Dolt 45 is always offensive.

I mean, on the offense. Again, it's what he said he'd do.

But speaking of dirty restaurants, I seem to remember Mar-a-Lago racking up health code violations a year or two ago. Also, I would reject decorating advise from a guy that lives in a gold-plated apartment on top of a tower with his name plastered on it like a comic book supervillain.
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“Rust, mold, parasites: Trump's Mar-a-Lago cited for 78 health violations in the last three years.”
- AP, April 2017
 
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