Trump immigrant family separation policy

The Big Dog said:
Peter Fonda urged that Barron Trump be taken from his family and put in a cage with pedophiles. He also urged people to surround the schools of ICE employees' children.

A poster here urged that armed groups storm the centers where the children are being held.
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Tree of liberty and all.

Alternatively we could be a nation governed by compassion and decency.
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The Big Dog said:
Peter Fonda urged that Barron Trump be taken from his family and put in a cage with pedophiles. He also urged people to surround the schools of ICE employees' children.

A poster here urged that armed groups storm the centers where the children are being held.
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Two people who don't have any real power or influence say some stupid things.....

Meanwhile the Trump Administration has implemented a policy of taking children from their parents and locking them in cages.

One of these things is not like the other IMO.
 
quadraginta said:
Interesting.

We can't even keep up with DNA testing rape kits to help catch known violent criminals. There are backlogs in some jurisdictions going back years if not decades.

Where is the money and the will to DNA catalog thousands of refugee families that the government has already shown it cares nothing for going to come from?
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That is what DHS wants to do, I have no idea how they’ll get something so simple done.
 
The Big Dog said:
Peter Fonda urged that Barron Trump be taken from his family and put in a cage with pedophiles. He also urged people to surround the schools of ICE employees' children.

A poster here urged that armed groups storm the centers where the children are being held.
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You're a Catholic, right? Did you see the earlier post where the Pope came out as against this policy? How do you feel about that?
 
The Don said:
Two people who don't have any real power or influence say some stupid things.....

Meanwhile the Trump Administration has implemented a policy of taking children from their parents and locking them in cages.

One of these things is not like the other IMO.
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And honestly how often do people think Trump interacts with Baron? Melania has spoken out against it.
 
The Don said:
Two people who don't have any real power or influence say some stupid things.....

Meanwhile the Trump Administration has implemented a policy of taking children from their parents and locking them in cages.

One of these things is not like the other IMO.
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You don't really believe that those are the only two people exhorting violence on this issue, do you? It is not.
 
The Big Dog said:
You don't really believe that those are the only two people exhorting violence on this issue, do you? It is not.
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People have their lives threatened for bad movie reviews. Pointing out people encouraging violence on an issue doesn't say anything about the issue.
 
The Big Dog said:
You don't really believe that those are the only two people exhorting violence on this issue, do you? It is not.
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Are any of them, individually or collectively, anywhere near as powerful or influential as the President of the USA and his Administration ?

I'm not excusing their behaviours - blowhards like that do more harm than good IMO - but IMO there's a big difference between mouthing off on an insignificant web forum and actually putting children in cages - YMMV.
 
The Don said:
Two people who don't have any real power or influence say some stupid things.....

Meanwhile the Trump Administration has implemented a policy of taking children from their parents and locking them in cages.

One of these things is not like the other IMO.
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I don't think what I said is stupid. Sometimes it's necessary to take up arms to defend freedom and Democracy against Fascism and tyranny. If things keep progressing as they are, we will soon be in a situation where the first shot will count for a lot.

ETA: I also think you should start considering ignoring the fascism-enablers on this forum. Let's discuss the problem without their constant bleeting.
 
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The Don said:
Are any of them, individually or collectively, anywhere near as powerful or influential as the President of the USA and his Administration ?

I'm not excusing their behaviours - blowhards like that do more harm than good IMO - but IMO there's a big difference between mouthing off on an insignificant web forum and actually putting children in cages - YMMV.
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Fonda did it on twitter and is not what one would call inconsequential.
 
uke2se said:
I don't think what I said is stupid. Sometimes it's necessary to take up arms to defend freedom and Democracy against Fascism and tyranny..
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Note how all the 2nd amendmenters love to talk about how guns are important to fight the tyranny of the government. But when someone on the left starts talking about actually fighting the tyranny of the government, then all of a sudden it's treason and out of line.

What if instead of BLM we had black people shooting cops, and they did it on the grounds of fighting tyranny? Basically, a black person gets stopped and shoots first when they felt threatened. You think republicans would be supporting their 2nd amendment rights to fight the tyranny of government? What if black people created a militia to take out bad cops?

I want to know, what exactly do the 2nd amendment consider to be tyranny that justifies the use of weapons against the government?
 
pgwenthold said:
I want to know, what exactly do the 2nd amendment consider to be tyranny that justifies the use of weapons against the government?
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A branch of government attempting to take their guns or curtail their freedom in any significant way ?
 
pgwenthold said:
What if instead of BLM we had black people shooting cops, and they did it on the grounds of fighting tyranny? Basically, a black person gets stopped and shoots first when they felt threatened. You think republicans would be supporting their 2nd amendment rights to fight the tyranny of government? What if black people created a militia to take out bad cops?
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There would likely have been calls for restrictions on gun possession, just like when the NRA supported an open carry ban in California in 1967 because black people were carrying guns to protect themselves from the police.
 
logger said:
That is what DHS wants to do, I have no idea how they’ll get something so simple done.
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Bob's Discount DNA Testing will see the opportunity and bid for the contract, claiming the company can do it for $500/test. After winning the contract the company will use this contract to go to their bank to demonstrate that he will be able to pay back the financing for the expansion to do more than 2 tests/day. Six months later they will have the equipment to run a hundred tests/day, but only if they can get a couple more employees to run the machines, resulting in overruns that are passed onto the Trump administration. After a year, they will finally start getting around to the backlog...

Unfortunately, while Bob is getting rich the lab techs are faced with the dilemma of rushing the tests or failing to meet quota, and the only geneticist on staff who can interpret the results has had to quit due to stress from overwork.
 
The Don said:
Moderately successful actor with 49k followers really isn't in the same ballpark influencewise as the leader of the free world :rolleyes:
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I am certain that stating that the person calling for violence against ICE employees' children only has 49,000 followers is not really all that strong of an argument against exhortations of violence, because I am absolutely certain that those ICE employees are not in the same ballpark influence wise as him.
 
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