Merged Paul Ryan to quit in January 2019

[Venom]

Paul Ryan is calling it quits, but he's gonna wait til January of next year to do it.

For a minute there I thought he was quitting in the face of Trump's disintegrating leadership...

 

[fuelair]

Riddance/rubbish.

 

[Loss Leader]

Technically, he's just not running again.

 

[The Great Zaganza]

Like plenty of Republicans, he doesn't want to be in Congress when it is time to vote to impeach Trump: they don't want to be on the record either way.

 

[Lurch]

Now that Ryan's no longer in the grip of having to eye his re-election chances, it would be a breath of fresh air to see him take a principled stand against Trumpism. But against such a scenario I shan't hold my breath. If he continues on in his spineless, supine subservience, for any re-emergence by him as a future Presidential candidate I pray that among the electorate memories are long and disinclined to soften.

If he's unhappy carrying water for the Orange one, a pox on him for his cowardice. It will take a most notable volte face on his part to begin to earn redemption. And even then, if there's the whiff of the self-serving motivated by future political prospects, such disinguenuous, late-to-the-party protestations should be taken for what they are. Honest, even self-recriminating introspection is what would be marvelous to see.

 

[The Great Zaganza]

Ryan is leaving in order to avoid having to make a principled stand.

 

[ponderingturtle]

As much as I dislike what a lot of the GOP has become, I think a "Everybody in the GOP is Evil" viewpoint is a bit much.

They are just comfortable associating with white supremacists. Nothing wrong with that, after all many white supremacists are fine people.

 

[ponderingturtle]

Eh, I don't think this is right, at least for 2018. The entire House is up for re-election, whereas only 1/3 of the Senate is at a time, and most of the seats Senate in 2018 are current Democrats. The House is meant to be more responsive to swings in public opinion.

That is also true but the republicans have an advantage due to gerrymandering anyway because it often needs to be more than 50% democrat vote to win. A large enough shift would overcome their gerrymandering but that doesn't mean it is a level playing field. Many states have more people voting democrat in house elections and send a majority of republicans to congress after all.

 

[ponderingturtle]

Ryan is leaving in order to avoid having to make a principled stand.

Exactly he is trying to avoid the stigma of potentially losing the election or having getting splattered with more of Trumps Dumps. This way he continues to be perceived as clean.

 

[plague311]

To be fair, all you have to do to run for a party primary is to join the party and all you have to do that is pretty much tell the local election officials you are registering as a member of said party.
Sort of hard to vet every member that joins in that situation.

Right...that kind of reinforces my point. A party cannot choose who represents them, but the person can pick which party they go to in an attempt to garner the most votes. Those people consistently chose to represent the Republican party, why is that?

 

[MikeG]

Exactly he is trying to avoid the stigma of potentially losing the election or having getting splattered with more of Trumps Dumps. This way he continues to be perceived as clean.

Really? I'm not sure many over here would perceive him in that way.

 

[dudalb]

Interesting article...
tico.com/magazine/story/2018/04/12/how-donald-trump-upended-paul-ryans-plans-217989

I would be a bit harsher on Ryan for selling his soul,but as the writer is right in how RYan has ruined his legacy.

 

[Segnosaur]

Exactly he is trying to avoid the stigma of potentially losing the election or having getting splattered with more of Trumps Dumps. This way he continues to be perceived as clean.

Really? I'm not sure many over here would perceive him in that way.

Well most people here wouldn't perceive Ryan as clean, but I don't think the demographics of this board match with those of the American electorate as a whole.

To the average Republican voter (or potential supporter) who has left the party because they don't like the overt racism of Trump, whatever moral failings he has would probably be overlooked because, well, he's better than Trump.

(I'm not saying Ryan IS a good person or good representative, only that the people making up his base may think he is.)

 

[Segnosaur]

Interesting article...
tico.com/magazine/story/2018/04/12/how-donald-trump-upended-paul-ryans-plans-217989

I would be a bit harsher on Ryan for selling his soul,but as the writer is right in how RYan has ruined his legacy.

I'm getting a 404 error on that link.

 

[dudalb]

TRy this one:

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/04/12/how-donald-trump-upended-paul-ryans-plans-217989

 

[BobTheCoward]

Well, other than....



Try as you might, everything cannot be reduced to tort law.

Which he will do for the length of time the constitution specifies.

 

[ponderingturtle]

Really? I'm not sure many over here would perceive him in that way.

He gets out before the whole thing comes crashing down, that certainly is better for his long term political viability than say not being speaker of the house next year or having to vote one way or the other on Trumps impeachment.

 

[ponderingturtle]

He got the trillion dollar deficits he wanted, why can't he retire on that victory?

 

[The Great Zaganza]

He got the trillion dollar deficits he wanted, why can't he retire on that victory?

Don't you remember Ryan's election slogan?

Build a giant deficit and make Social Security pay for it.

 

[Hans]

Any possibility he did so so he can run unencumbered for the Republican nomination in 2020?