Merged General Holocaust denial discussion Part IV

Mondial said:
Stories of 6 million Jews killed or at risk of death go back at least to 1900 and were used as propaganda to further the Zionist cause. The following links provide many instances of this symbolic figure being used long before WW2-
www.whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/6mil.php#axzz587ApzDGC
https://codoh.com/library/document/4089/
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Even granting, arguendo, that this is true (which it isn't), it's simply a red herring [ETA: also poisoning the well]. It doesn't do a thing to change the overwhelming evidence that the Holocaust happened as generally accepted by all serious historians.
 
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Mondial said:
Stories of 6 million Jews killed or at risk of death go back at least to 1900 and were used as propaganda to further the Zionist cause. The following links provide many instances of this symbolic figure being used long before WW2-
www.whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/6mil.php#axzz587ApzDGC
https://codoh.com/library/document/4089/
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Oh my another seagull attack by Mondial. I guess you've learned to drop nonsense and run instead of trying to support it? lol

Here is a question for you (oh and you have lots more questions you've avoided up thread too) is there any reason to respond to you? There is no discussion you just post long debunked stuff and run off.

I believe you aren't worth talking too.
 
SpitfireIX said:
Even granting, arguendo, that this is true (which it isn't), it's simply a red herring [ETA: also poisoning the well]. It doesn't do a thing to change the overwhelming evidence that the Holocaust happened as generally accepted by all serious historians.
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I think that Mondial knows that which is why he has adopted the tactic of 'depositing' long debunked stuff and then running off. The experts (of which I am not one) here have ripped him to shreds far to many times for him to risk an actual discussion.
 
Question: What would be the best source for a description of the Holocaust affects on Luxembourg? What was done there and what happened to the Jewish and other 'unwanted' populations?
 
Mondial said:
New poll finds that 31% of Americans believe that less than 2 million Jews died during holocaust -
https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11711
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The actual article:

http://www.dw.com/en/us-adults-rapidly-forgetting-the-holocaust/a-43364480

One hopeful data point in the study was that an overwhelming majority of all Americans (93 percent) agreed that the history of the Holocaust should be taught in schools.

A Washington Post poll conducted in the wake of white supremacist violence in Charlottesville, Virginia, last summer found that 9 percent of Americans thought there was no problem in holding neo-Nazi or white supremacist views – this equates to about 22 million people. (or 6.75% of the population)
 
Another data point from the survey, which Mondial saw fit not to mention: "Holocaust denial remains very rare in the United States, with 96 percent of respondents saying they believe the genocide happened." from NYT article on the survey

A view that Americans are generally no less informed today about the Holocaust than they were in the past or than they are about other historical matters is found here.

That many people have a fuzzy view events, numbers, dates, place names, individuals, etc is not surprising - here is a post I made in this forum in 2011 on the state of education about the Holocaust in public schools in the US, which, in my experience, is reflective of the state of historical education in general.
 
Jeffk 1970 said:
I’m curious, do you just randomly drop by and then run off before you get discovered? Inquiring minds want to know.
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Yes he does. In the past he tried to do normal debate and was absolutely shredded here by the many knowledgeable experts. These days he just seagulls a question then runs off for days or weeks comes back and drops another and runs off again.

I think the strategy is to avoid being shown to be wrong (which he was in a huge way in the past)and so keeping white supremacy and anti-Semitic themes in play.
 
Hans said:
Oh my another seagull attack by Mondial. I guess you've learned to drop nonsense and run instead of trying to support it? lol

Here is a question for you (oh and you have lots more questions you've avoided up thread too) is there any reason to respond to you? There is no discussion you just post long debunked stuff and run off.

I believe you aren't worth talking too.
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Jeezus!!! Dropping unsupported assertions; posting long debunked stuff; running away from and avoiding questions?

For a moment there, I thought I had stumbled into the JFK Conspiracy thread!!!
 
smartcooky said:
Jeezus!!! Dropping unsupported assertions; posting long debunked stuff; running away from and avoiding questions?

For a moment there, I thought I had stumbled into the JFK Conspiracy thread!!!
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Don't they all (CT and their theories) display similar behaviors??
 
smartcooky said:
Jeezus!!! Dropping unsupported assertions; posting long debunked stuff; running away from and avoiding questions?

For a moment there, I thought I had stumbled into the JFK Conspiracy thread!!!
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Oh yeah I drop in there once every few weeks and it seems to be the same argument that was going on three or four years ago. It's always breathless assertion that 'x' (piece of trivia) is wrong, very important but for no particular reason.
 
dudalb said:
I don't agree with France's position....I am something of an absolutist when it comes to free speech...but I can understand it.
Agree that a Neo Nazi complaining about somebody's Free Speech being violated is a truly astounding bit of hypocrisy.
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They have a tendency to suddenly start caring a lot about democratic principles when they benefit from them themselves.

Kinda like how Internett trolls here in Norway suddenly become very big supporters of feminism and the fight against sexual abuse when they can use it to hate on "foreigners". The rest of the time feminists are evil in their eyes, of course.
 
Hans said:
Yes he does. In the past he tried to do normal debate and was absolutely shredded here by the many knowledgeable experts. These days he just seagulls a question then runs off for days or weeks comes back and drops another and runs off again.

I think the strategy is to avoid being shown to be wrong (which he was in a huge way in the past)and so keeping white supremacy and anti-Semitic themes in play.
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So he's like the "bots" found in every Israel-Palestine discussion thread who just spams links, YouTube videos, and random statements, and are unable to have actual rational discussions?

I've found many Trump supporters to be like this, too. Try to actually talk to them and they just go into protective insult/Whataboutism mode.
 
Hans said:
Yes he does. In the past he tried to do normal debate and was absolutely shredded here by the many knowledgeable experts. These days he just seagulls a question then runs off for days or weeks comes back and drops another and runs off again.

I think the strategy is to avoid being shown to be wrong (which he was in a huge way in the past)and so keeping white supremacy and anti-Semitic themes in play.
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I didn't get shredded by you or any other [SNIP] on this thread. It simply doesn't pay to debate with people like you who insist on calling anyone who doesn't believe in fake atrocity propaganda from a conflict which ended over 70 years ago an "anti semite" or "neo nazi". If you bothered to ready my posts properly you would see that I have repeatedly pointed out that there are Jews who are holocaust revisionists -
https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=6912
This includes Gerard Menuhin the son of violinist Yehudi Menhin -
https://codoh.com/news/3347/
You completely ignore this and insist on the name calling. You have zero credibility so why would I waste my time with you.
I have also pointed out that people who actually fought the Nazis are in the ranks of holocaust revisionists such as Paul Rassinier a member of the French resistance and inmate of Buchenwald.
https://codoh.com/library/document/3129/
You also completely ignore this and just stick to name calling.
I leave links for members and visitors to see what revisionists have to say in their own words. If you don't like that then that's your problem!
https://codoh.com

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Safe-Keeper said:
They have a tendency to suddenly start caring a lot about democratic principles when they benefit from them themselves.

Kinda like how Internett trolls here in Norway suddenly become very big supporters of feminism and the fight against sexual abuse when they can use it to hate on "foreigners". The rest of the time feminists are evil in their eyes, of course.
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Democratic principles have been trashed by countries which are continually talking about human rights yet they don't even support the right to free speech.
www.ihr.org/news/irving022006.html
Of course you have nothing to say about that. The same politicians which imprison holocaust revisionists are also the ones who spout phrases such as Je Suis Charlie. If you want to be known as a two faced hypocrite you are in good company.
https://forum.codoh.com/viewforum.php?f=2
 
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