The Trump Presidency (Act V - The One Where Everybody Dies)

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Can anyone spell, 'obstruction'?

Trump is really feeling that pressure for someone who insists he has nothing to worry about.

"Why it matters: Trump started his presidency by pressuring one FBI Director (before canning him), and then began pressuring another (this time wanting his deputy canned). This much meddling with the FBI for this long is not normal."

Yeah. That's not even normal for a crook. Most crooks have sense enough not to push the FBI around.
 
"Why it matters: Trump started his presidency by pressuring one FBI Director (before canning him), and then began pressuring another (this time wanting his deputy canned). This much meddling with the FBI for this long is not normal."

Yeah. That's not even normal for a crook. Most crooks have sense enough not to push the FBI around.
Almost makes one wish J Edgar was still around.

Hmmm, that's fodder for one of those alternate history books, Trump in the time of Hoover. Russia gets Hoover's dress-up tapes and Trump's pee pee tapes. Oh man, the optional endings there are a writer's dream.
 
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Following the issues where or how?
Skeptic Ginger, you have at least twice told me how I arrive at my opinions and you've been wrong both times. Please stop.

Here's how I have followed the issues: For about 8 years I was a newspaper editor overseeing coverage of the border and immigration. I assigned and/or edited perhaps hundreds of news stories, many involving DACA, going back to about 2002. I've also done a fair amount of commentary (with attendant research). Since 2010 I've been been working in schools, some literally 98 percent Latino. I've seen a 14-year-old sobbing in a teacher's arms because he missed his father and grandparents, but couldn't visit Mexico because he might not get back into the U.S. In 2011 I did extensive interviews as part of research for a documentary (it has never been released), talking to human-rights activists and finding a family that felt secure enough to appear in the film. I edited stories about a 19-year-old U.S. soldier who finally earned his citizenship after he was killed in combat.

Throughout, I have tried to inform the public by taking those mainstream media stories, including those from the AP, and making them more concrete and detailed. I slash the phrase "tough new immigration law" in favor of a paragraph summarizing what the bill would do.

At least once before, you have invented motives for my posts - your theory that I am "falling for" Republican talking points, or that my views on Iran are based on media-driven stereotypes. I won't go into length about my qualifications on Iran, but they are based on talking to a wide variety of Iranians both inside and outside of Iran; extensive reading (not just MSM) and slipping into the Islamic Republic of Iran as a "proofreader" because I was afraid if I put "journalist" or even "editor" on my visa application they wouldn't let me in. None of that makes me an expert, but I'm reasonably well-informed.

Let's look at the issues. It is Trump's fault because he cancelled Obama's DACA executive order in the first place.
Yep.

Yes, and the question is, why are the Democrats responsible for this?
I didn't say they were. I was talking about my frustration with Congress as a whole over the years. For better or worse I haven't even been paying attention to who's doing what right now. But I absolutely have not been influenced by Trump/GOP talking points on this issue. I watch virtually no television and haven't been on CNN's site in days.

When I say you bought the GOP talking point, I'm talking about you believing the Democrats were holding the spending bill hostage without noticing how that POV has been so manipulated.
I'm talking about what has happened with this bill over the years. I didn't watch any Pence speeches. I don't listen to anything Sarah Huckabee Sanders says. I didn't even know the GOP was blaming Democrats for the holdup. I plead ignorance, but please be aware that I am not someone who is easily manipulated by the media. I've spent a good deal of time demolishing talking points by insisting on adding perspective to stories, filling in gaping holes and sometimes asking awkward questions. I had huge leeway to do this and was highly trusted.

If I was still doing my old job I would be following these machinations closely but right now I'm ignoring it. Too crazy-making. I know I'm not falling for any GOP finger-pointing. You can draw your own conclusions.
 
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Getting injured in combat is not a qualification to discuss military affairs. Combat injuries do not impart knowledge of recruitment and retention, training and doctrine, procurement and supply, etc. They don't make anyone an expert, or even minimally competent, in matters of strategic priority, force strength and composition, or national security posture. By themselves, they don't even give much insight into the administration of veteran's affairs.

Right, it's not the injury itself that gives you the knowlege but the service.

As for rank being a qualification? She might have been a Lieutenant Colonel, but Donald Trump is Commander in Chief.

Becoming a Lieutenant Colonel takes years and must be earned. One would learn a lot during those years of service.

Becoming Commander in Chief only takes an election, and up until the time when you start getting those intel briefs doesn't teach you anything.

You started off making a logical point, then took this nose-dive into silliness.
 

A Michigan man was arrested after an FBI investigation, accused of threatening to travel to Atlanta to commit mass murder at CNN headquarters.

According to federal court documents, the man, from a Detroit suburb, made 22 calls to CNN about a week ago.
It began with claims of "fake news" and ended with threats of violence.

The man told a CNN operator, among other things, "Fake news. I'm coming to gun you all down."

He then called again, saying "I'm smarter than you. More powerful than you.

I have more guns than you. More manpower. Your cast is about to get gunned down in a matter of hours."

He continued, "I am coming to Georgia right now to go to the CNN headquarters to ********** gun every single last one of you."



This is what the undercurrent of the Trump movement seems to be; some might feel they have been given a free ride with respect to racism and discrimination; and the justification of violence against those who oppose the President.
 
Real world experience is extremely faulty compared to evidence based approaches.

Since when are you interested ion evidence based approach? You’ve made it abundantly clearly you are only interested in your own idealized view of how the world should work and routinely dismiss evidence of how it actually works are being irrelevant to you.

Get back to us when Trump uses anything resembling either of those, OK?
Not just Trump. Republicans in general despise evidence based approaches.
 
This is what the undercurrent of the Trump movement seems to be; some might feel they have been given a free ride with respect to racism and discrimination; and the justification of violence against those who oppose the President.

What's scary is that if/when he is indicted, Trumpublicans are likely to become even more violent on his behalf.
 
Since when are you interested ion evidence based approach? You’ve made it abundantly clearly you are only interested in your own idealized view of how the world should work and routinely dismiss evidence of how it actually works are being irrelevant to you.


Not just Trump. Republicans in general despise evidence based approaches.

I'm not interested in effects of policies. I am capable of assessing the process of determining the effects and their probability of occurring. When a person points to very strong evidence of all the harm my policies will do, I agree with them.
 
Well, that's the thing... it was Trump himself who acted to get rid of it.
Who says Trump can't change his mind? Maybe with an AG other than Sessions.

I've stayed awake writing screeds that I have deemed not fit to post. Twice I tried to tone it down; this is the third draft. The Dreamers, who believed America's promises, are low-hanging fruit. We know where they live, or where the go to school. Round them up and get as many people as we can into custody. Expedite their removal orders and fly them deep into Mexico's interior. Where exactly you put them is not clear; but having them walk right into Mexico isn't enough; they need to be 1,000 miles from the border and boom, not our problem. Somehow we'll strong-arm Mexico into taking charge of them, and those people probably won't make it back.

I keep thinking if Americans - and not just Democrats and a few Republicans, but masses of independents and some wavering Trump supporters - get a clear enough picture of who Trump really is - an extremist who seriously wants to be a dictator - his approval rating will hit the teens. So start deporting people. Let's see how that plays out.

America made a commitment to these young people. If Americans want to live in a country that reneges on such commitments - an America that will not admit even a token number of refugees displaced as a result of wars we started - an America that turns away even highly skilled professionals because competition scares the local talent - at that point America is dying or dead. We've turned our back on the world. We'll be a shrinking plurality of mostly white people who feel they've been left behind and don't want any more change, unless it's to see the hands of the clock moving backward. Actually I can relate to that; things are moving forward rather more quickly than I would like. (Not the demographics, but other things). It is scary. But not as scary as the waves of xenophobia, religious mania and white nationalism that got Trump into office.

I don't want to see him impeached, especially. I just want his support to dwindle at least down to the teens as people realize what a phony he is and what a dead end he wants to create for this country. I'd like to see the Republican party fractured, and the Democrats actually on the ball and ready with a plan for communicating their own message and whipping up votes.
 
I keep thinking if Americans - and not just Democrats and a few Republicans, but masses of independents and some wavering Trump supporters - get a clear enough picture of who Trump really is - an extremist who seriously wants to be a dictator - his approval rating will hit the teens. So start deporting people. Let's see how that plays out.

President Trump isn't the problem IMO, he's a symptom of the problem (a potent mix of selfishness, racism, xenophobia, fear of losing power, lack of respect for expertise and experts and inerrancy). If people start getting deported, President Trump's support will actually get a slight bump because the 35-40% who already love him will continue to love him and a proportion of the remainder will support him because he's a strong President, doing what he promised and protecting America. :rolleyes:

The people who will be incensed at the deportations are IMO already vehemently anti-Trump.
 
Incoming news cycle about Trump mimicking Indian accents.
While that would be abnormal, insensitive and stupid behaviour for normal people involved in diplomacy, it's just another day for Trump. Supporters will find it funny and enjoy that it irritates non-supporters. We'll all be a little more numb.
 
President Trump isn't the problem IMO, he's a symptom of the problem (a potent mix of selfishness, racism, xenophobia, fear of losing power, lack of respect for expertise and experts and inerrancy). If people start getting deported, President Trump's support will actually get a slight bump because the 35-40% who already love him will continue to love him and a proportion of the remainder will support him because he's a strong President, doing what he promised and protecting America. :rolleyes:

The people who will be incensed at the deportations are IMO already vehemently anti-Trump.
Well said.
 
Incoming news cycle about Trump mimicking Indian accents.
While that would be abnormal, insensitive and stupid behaviour for normal people involved in diplomacy, it's just another day for Trump. Supporters will find it funny and enjoy that it irritates non-supporters. We'll all be a little more numb.

Look, if paying hush money over an affair with a porn star doesn't even make a single one of his supporters blink and it doesn't even stary in the news cycle a few moments of his blatant racism isn't going to have any effect.
 
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