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Telepathy

Michel H said:
I don't think this is the kind of "help" he needs, this is more the kind of stuff he wants to avoid.
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Yes, that is exactly the kind of help he needs to show that telepathy exists. What kind of help were you thinking he needs? Psychological?

I do agree with you that both you and he will go to any lengths to avoid a fair test that would help show that telepathy exists.
 
RoboTimbo said:
Yes, that is exactly the kind of help he needs to show that telepathy exists. What kind of help were you thinking he needs? Psychological?

I do agree with you that both you and he will go to any lengths to avoid a fair test that would help show that telepathy exists.
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To Michel's credit he at least had a test, A poorly constructed one, but still.
 
Michel H said:
As a matter of fact, he seems to be one of the people with the best understanding of telepathy on this forum.
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Only if you assume telepathy is real. But there's no reason to do that without evidence, evidence which is startlingly absent.
 
Jocko said:
Yes, and this can only be "the" KOA. Conspiracies, excuses and eventual invective.

You could be no other.

I did not realize one could earn a masters' degree in parasitism.
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YOU may refer to me as "Your Majesty, King of the Americas, Ruler of the Western Hemisphere," or receive no response.

;)
 
jt512 said:
More bull ****. It would be extremely easy to detect telepathic ability if it existed. Not only did Loss Leader and I spell out how it could be done, you actually agreed to do it...right up until you backed out.



Tomorrow? Seriously? If there were magnetic output from the brain, we'd have detected it centuries ago. Ever hear of a compass?
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The, 1970s, actually.
 
King of the Americas said:
The brain produces electro-magnetic impulses, that can be measured, sorta.

We just have no way of measuring their ability to travel...
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Rubbish. We have a thorough and detailed understanding of electromagnetic impulses and how they travel. Our understanding of electromagnetics enables us to communicate over long distances, even up to interplanetary distances. We can also use electromagnetic impulses to carry out incredibly complex calculations, generate and transmit pictures over long distances, and transmit text to one another wherever in the world each of us happens to be. We can even detect and measure the electromagnetic impulses generated in the brain and determine how far away from the brain they can be detected. We have extraordinary sensitive and accurate tools to detect electromagnetic impulses and waves, and if any such mechanism were available for direct communication from one brain to another it would be trivially simple to detect. In practice, it isn't detected.

Make up your fantasies if you want, but be aware just how ridiculous they are. "No way of measuring [electromagnetic impulses'] ability to travel" is, I think, the most absurdly stupid claim I've ever heard made, given that it's made over a medium whose existence is based on the remarkable extent to which we can measure electromagnetic impulses and their ability to travel.

Dave
 
Michel H said:
I think you should look at the general spirit of his posts, which seem fairly right to me, not so much at details.
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The general spirit of his posts, from where I'm sitting, is that he made claims he won't back up, wasted everyone's time talking about doing a test he didn't ultimately want to do, and avoided any questions he didn't like.
What was this 'general spirit' from your perspective? What positive aspects of KotA's posts have you noticed?
 
theprestige said:
We've been able to monitor magnetic output from the human brain since the 1970s. Within the last decade or so, we've been able to harness that output to do useful work.

If there were telepathy there, we'd have found it by now.
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Plus, researchers have mapped out the brain and not found any places where radio or magnetic or any other kind of long-range signal could be produced or received. And, it is clear that the brain doesn't consume or emit enough energy to produce such a signal. If there was a Bluetooth device in our heads, it would have been discovered long ago.
 
Cosmic Yak said:
What was this 'general spirit' from your perspective? What positive aspects of KotA's posts have you noticed?
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Seconded.
Michel, could you summarize in one or two concise paragraphs the general understanding of telepathy that you perceived in KotA's posts and that you consider to reflect reality? Thanks.
 
jadebox said:
Plus, researchers have mapped out the brain and not found any places where radio or magnetic or any other kind of long-range signal could be produced or received. And, it is clear that the brain doesn't consume or emit enough energy to produce such a signal. If there was a Bluetooth device in our heads, it would have been discovered long ago.
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The electromagnetic impulses emitted by all those neurons firing in our brains are a bit like the noises made by the crowd in a packed football stadium.

Telepathy is the effect whereby members of that noisy crowd can pick out what specific members of another crowd are yelling in a different stadium several miles away.

Which is why of course it doesn't exist.
 
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