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Trump and NFL boycott

Brainster said:
So no doubt the criminal trials of Kaepernick and the other protestors are just around the corner?
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Criminal trials aren't the only kind of attacks a government can engage in.


Ziggurat said:
It's not Trump yapping that made viewership drop.
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Stop right there. This is what you said:

Ziggurat said:
Here's the thing: people won't be boycotting because Trump told them to. They will be boycotting because football is no longer an escape from politics.
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You were addressing the future actions of viewers, not their past actions. If anyone, as a result of the recent surge in protests, chooses to no longer watch NFL games, that traces back to Trump. He shoved, and players are shoving back (that is part of their job, after all). If that makes things too uncomfortable for certain viewers, they should be blaming Trump for instigating.

That most people won't be interested or intelligent enough to make the connection is unfortunate, but not the NFL's fault.
 
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Ziggurat said:
With the NFL's leadership significantly reduced for years to come, and player sallaries cut accordingly.

Here's the thing: people won't be boycotting because Trump told them to. They will be boycotting because football is no longer an escape from politics. That is the NFLs own fault.
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The players probably would also prefer football not have politics involved. You have to play the hand you are dealt.
 
Ziggurat said:
With the NFL's leadership significantly reduced for years to come, and player sallaries cut accordingly.

Here's the thing: people won't be boycotting because Trump told them to. They will be boycotting because football is no longer an escape from politics. That is the NFLs own fault.
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You live in Lalaland. Football has been politicized since the 60s and 70s when they started the paratroop drops, Blue Angel flyovers, AF or Navy flyovers with broken wing formations and the "Let's hear it for our armed forces" crap. Half and then more than half of the country was against the war but the NFL was toeing the minority line of the government.

I could honestly give a rat's ass if professional sports teams go broke and/or all their employees have to learn to make livings doing other things.
 
Not to mention how a number of Major League baseball teams now ask people to stand during the 7th inning for the playing of God Bless America. I believe the New York Yankees were the first to do it back in 2001 following the terrorist attacks. After what New York City experienced collectively on September 11th, it was a moving tribute to our resilience and loss at the time. But now, sixteen years later, it has become a tad tiresome.

As for The Dunce, Samuel Johnson predicted him very well, and over 232 years ago:

Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.
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;)
 
To paraphrase a line from late night last night.... Trump has a problem when black people loudly protest and when black people silently protest....
 
Cl1mh4224rd said:
You were addressing the future actions of viewers, not their past actions.
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Oh, FFS. I played loose with verb tense. So what?

If anyone, as a result of the recent surge in protests, chooses to no longer watch NFL games, that traces back to Trump.
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Which traces back to Trump's dad, without whom Trump never would have been born.

But there's no point in tracing the cause back farther than the immediate one. And the immediate one is that a lot of viewers aren't interested in watching player protests, regardless of the cause. Players were not forced to protest because of Trump. They made a choice. And so did viewers

He shoved, and players are shoving back (that is part of their job, after all).
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Responding to tweets is part of their job? No, it isn't.

If that makes things too uncomfortable for certain viewers, they should be blaming Trump for instigating.
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And maybe some of them are. But that doesn't help the NFL. They can't make money off of blame.

That most people won't be interested or intelligent enough to make the connection is unfortunate, but not the NFL's fault.
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And I'm sure the NFL can console themselves with that as their income shrinks. Yet no matter who you want to blame, the NFL could have avoided it. They could have chosen a different path.

They chose poorly.
 
Ziggurat said:
Oh, FFS. I played loose with verb tense. So what?



Which traces back to Trump's dad, without whom Trump never would have been born.

But there's no point in tracing the cause back farther than the immediate one. And the immediate one is that a lot of viewers aren't interested in watching player protests, regardless of the cause. Players were not forced to protest because of Trump. They made a choice. And so did viewers



Responding to tweets is part of their job? No, it isn't.



And maybe some of them are. But that doesn't help the NFL. They can't make money off of blame.



And I'm sure the NFL can console themselves with that as their income shrinks. Yet no matter who you want to blame, the NFL could have avoided it. They could have chosen a different path.

They chose poorly.
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People always ask companies to be good corporate citizens. Here it is.
 
BobTheCoward said:
People always ask companies to be good corporate citizens. Here it is.
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There is no universal definition of what that even means. It's more accurate to say that people want companies to advance the interests of those same people, which they label as being good citizens.
 
Ziggurat said:
There is no universal definition of what that even means. It's more accurate to say that people want companies to advance the interests of those same people, which they label as being good citizens.
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True. It is why i feel like I'm the only person wanting powerful groups advancing interests different than mine.
 
Saw a funny comment yesterday by someone who was like, "I don't care if they protest, but don't do it during the game!"

And the response was, duh, the National Anthem is BEFORE the game, you dolt.

Once again, a good sign that they are disingenuous.
 
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