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Louise Linton gaffe

BobTheCoward said:
I didn't say sacrifice, I said contribution. However sad it is that person's death is, it ultimately contributes very little. Her words were how much was given.
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I know it can't be your reading comprehension, so perhaps you need to actually give Linton's Instagram response a read... at least once.

She played the "sacrifice" card at least three times. Her words.


Or correct me if you're off on a different tangent and I missed the turnoff.
I don't lionize service like some do, given the varied reasons for enlisting... but your broad-brush demonizing of the military made it hard to stomach reading your latest posts.
Your pedantic contrarianism of late is bad enough, this was just being vile... for effect.
That's called trolling. :rolleyes:
 
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Jim_MDP said:
I know it can't be your reading comprehension, so perhaps you need to actually give Linton's Instagram response a read... at least once.

She played the "sacrifice" card at least three times. Her words.


Or correct me if you're off on a different tangent and I missed the turnoff.
I don't lionize service like some do, given the varied reasons for enlisting... but your broad-brush demonizing of the military made it hard to stomach reading your latest posts.
Your pedantic contrarianism of late is bad enough, this was just being vile... for effect.
That's called trolling. :rolleyes:
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I went off the OP which did not quote any sacrifice. She did use the word sacrifice which is dumb. Still, their tax bill is more beneficial to the government than any one death of a service member.
 
BobTheCoward said:
I went off the OP which did not quote any sacrifice. She did use the word sacrifice which is dumb. Still, their tax bill is more beneficial to the government than any one death of a service member.
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Again... it's primarily Steve-o's money that's being taxed, she should have more care with her words.

But let's go with your line of thinking for a moment...

How much damage... actual real damage, financially to the economy and that and emotional/life changing to the families... did Steve's tens of thousands of foreclosures (some/many illegal) create?

Less than whatever tax rate he can get away with?
Otherwise... he's a net "taker".
 
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Jim_MDP said:
Again... it's primarily Steve-o's money that's being taxed, she should have more care with her words.

But let's go with your line for a moment...

How much damage... actual real damage, financially to the economy and that and emotional/life changing to the families... did Steve's tens of thousands (some/many illegal) of foreclosures create?

Less than whatever tax rate he can get away with?
Otherwise... he's a net "taker".
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Then we have to figure of the number of crimes committed by young adults who then end up dying in service probably makes them net takers also.
 
BobTheCoward said:
Then we have to figure of the number of crimes committed by young adults who then end up dying in service probably makes them net takers also.
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Some would say they've paid their bill... in full.

What would Steve he to do? :confused:

(But I did notice you dodged my questions.)
 
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Jim_MDP said:
Some would say they've paid their bill... in full.

What would Steve he to do? :confused:

(But I did notice you dodged my questions.)
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I would say they didn't. Millions of tax dollars is useful to the government. The service of a single soldier? No so much. Their death just means they have to spend more tax dollars without benefit.
 
BobTheCoward said:
Then we have to figure of the number of crimes committed by young adults who then end up dying in service probably makes them net takers also.
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That will be difficult to figure, as, whatever crimes they committed will not be in the records. A criminal background check is a requirement for enlistment. The days of the judge saying "Army or jail." are fifty years and more in the past.
 
Pope130 said:
That will be difficult to figure, as, whatever crimes they committed will not be in the records. A criminal background check is a requirement for enlistment. The days of the judge saying "Army or jail." are fifty years and more in the past.
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Only 45 years, based on the losers I met in Basic Training in 1971. The judges were doing the Army no favors.
 
Pope130 said:
That will be difficult to figure, as, whatever crimes they committed will not be in the records. A criminal background check is a requirement for enlistment. The days of the judge saying "Army or jail." are fifty years and more in the past.
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Yeah. I don't imagine the branches have a serious Gangbanger problem, it's too much damn work to get far enough to actually be deployed. :D

No idea what Bob is imagining. :rolleyes:
 
Pope130 said:
That will be difficult to figure, as, whatever crimes they committed will not be in the records. A criminal background check is a requirement for enlistment. The days of the judge saying "Army or jail." are fifty years and more in the past.
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We can't really take a person and weigh all their costs and benefits. We are not Anubis. It is only a thought exercise.
 
BStrong said:
Haters gonna hate.

She's in her little world and tweets about it. One of the billions of people on this planet that will lash out immediately at any online post they find objectionable and lives to do so responds and the fight was on.

There's a guy I follow on YT that shows guitar and bass guitar repairs. He's a bass player. No political stuff, he cusses when he encounters problems, has a good sense of humor and knows his stuff. Anybody that has to stop their vid so they can make lasagna for dinner is OK by me.

In one vid, he gets out the Rickenbacker bass he purchased new in '75. He tells a funny story about why he bought it, what the salesman told him when he bought it (which is extremely funny if you know the bass in question) and he goes on to disassemble the bass to put it back to playable condition.

Along the way he points out the weak points of the design - every instrument has them and the Ric is no exception.

The comment section was an insane asylum of Ric fanboys throwing dung at the vid and the man that made it. I have no rational explanation for the reactions, I can take a swag that certain posters loved Ric 4001 model basses and couldn't accept that there are actual design flaws related to the bridge and neck adjustment so they immediately began taking shots at Dave.

In the tweets, a fashionable woman with the financial ability to indulge her pursuits did a bit of "look-at-me-and-my-fine-things" braggadocio and someone took offense - the Tweeter then made the mistake of replying - never reply to a negative comment on your video - and at that point the circling sharks smelled blood and that was it.

I don't believe there is anything past pretty normal modern human behavior here. The argument can be made that the wife must be beyond reproach and when Linton made the original tweet she was out of line. I don't believe so. The reaction to her tweet was as predicable as the rising sun. I don't think that her response was appropriate. Even if she poured the finest of olive oil on the troubled waters it would have made no difference.
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I had a dog named Loki.
 
Jim_MDP said:
Then respond to mine. I've asked you twice.
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About Steve's crimes? He has big costs and big benefits. Dead veterans probably had small crimes and small benefits. The original argument by the lady and the person who went after her we're about the benefits.the crimes likely outweigh but what does that matter.
 
BobTheCoward said:
About Steve's crimes? He has big costs and big benefits. Dead veterans probably had small crimes and small benefits. The original argument by the lady and the person who went after her we're about the benefits.the crimes likely outweigh but what does that matter.
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You misunderstood so I'll try again...

Steve took advantage of the financial sector's economy crash to force (in many cases create) enforcemt of some 36,000 marginal forclosures.
Pocketing several hundred million in the process.
Man... that's Shkreli territory. :rolleyes:

But from a purely financial standpoint (wouldn't want to burden you with emotional aspects)... what might you suppose was the drag on the economy of whatever percentage of those that financially destroyed those families?

Do you think that helped the economy? Or the nation?
Is that his "contribution"?
 
Jim_MDP said:
You misunderstood so I'll try again...

Steve took advantage of the financial sector's economy crash to force (in many cases create) enforcemt of some 36,000 marginal forclosures.
Pocketing several hundred million in the process.
Man... that's Shkreli territory. :rolleyes:

But from a purely financial standpoint (wouldn't want to burden you with emotional aspects)... what might you suppose was the drag on the economy of whatever percentage of those that financially destroyed those families?

Do you think that helped the economy? Or the nation?
Is that his "contribution"?
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I said large cost.
 
Meanwhile Melina almost upstaged her by wearing designer stilletos and packing luxury luggage for her trip to the disaster zone in TX.
 
ChristianProgressive said:
Meanwhile Melina almost upstaged her by wearing designer stilletos and packing luxury luggage for her trip to the disaster zone in TX.
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IMO that's her prerogative so long as she didn't post something like......

Weather in Texas is bad and spoiled our day trip :mad: But I made the best of it by dressing to impress #designername1 #designername2 #designername3
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crescent said:
a) she didn't tweet anything. It was an Instagram post,

b) showing her getting off a govvie airplane as it were her own personal limo while wearing a $20k outfit,

c) which was tasteless and tacky and would other wise have gone largely un-noticed, except,

d) she replied to a comment about her tacky post with a response that was outrageously arrogant, patronizing, and passive aggressive, while accusing the person she was responding to of being passive aggressive and "adoringly out of touch".

It was the response to the post that set everyone off. She seemed seriously miffed that a mere member of the hoi-polloi dared to call her out, she equated wealth with being more useful than military service, and she showed herself to be stunningly out of touch with society. She's been compared to Leona Helmsley, Cruella DeVille, and Marie Antoinette for good reason with an attitude like that.
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The problem is there is some truth in this. 'Anyone' can be the PBI but it takes money to pay them and equip them.
 
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