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Louise Linton gaffe

It's almost as if the ability to instantly tell millions of people anything that pops into your head has negative outcomes sometimes.
If only we'd known that a year ago, things might have turned out differently.

But help me understand: What was the negative consequence here?

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I'd just like to know what the big deal is. She tweeted about the designer she was wearing? That's it? How often did we hear about what Michelle Obama was wearing. This chick's an actress too. That's her world. Much ado about nothing.
 
I'd just like to know what the big deal is. She tweeted about the designer she was wearing? That's it? How often did we hear about what Michelle Obama was wearing. This chick's an actress too. That's her world. Much ado about nothing.

a) she didn't tweet anything. It was an Instagram post,

b) showing her getting off a govvie airplane as it were her own personal limo while wearing a $20k outfit,

c) which was tasteless and tacky and would other wise have gone largely un-noticed, except,

d) she replied to a comment about her tacky post with a response that was outrageously arrogant, patronizing, and passive aggressive, while accusing the person she was responding to of being passive aggressive and "adoringly out of touch".

It was the response to the post that set everyone off. She seemed seriously miffed that a mere member of the hoi-polloi dared to call her out, she equated wealth with being more useful than military service, and she showed herself to be stunningly out of touch with society. She's been compared to Leona Helmsley, Cruella DeVille, and Marie Antoinette for good reason with an attitude like that.
 
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Drawing negative attention to one's actions is a negative consequence, especially if one is a politician or married to one.

LOL. My boss can fire me if I don't do my job. That's a negative consequence, right? And my boss can impose the negative consequence because he has that power over me.

Who has the power, here? This was a twitterverse slapfight. Then the media picked it up. And we know how much power the media has, in the Trumpian Age.

And so what if she's married to a politician? You already hated that politician, right? Positive attention was never a commodity you were selling. And let's be honest: the positive regard of Tragic Monkey of ISF was never a valuable currency to federal politicians anyway.

So what exactly was the negative consequence, here?
 
Now there are some FOIA requests in to see if the trip was perhaps timed to be in the totality of the eclipse. This story has legs.

And confirmed.

It turns out that Mnuchin did view the eclipse while he was in Kentucky, and from an extraordinary place: Just outside the path of totality, from the roof of the nation’s fabled Fort Knox, atop nearly $200 billion in American gold. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) posted a Facebook photo of himself, holding a pair of eclipse glasses, and Mnuchin at the U.S. Bullion Repository, where he said “we viewed the #solareclipse from the rooftop today.”
 
LOL. My boss can fire me if I don't do my job. That's a negative consequence, right? And my boss can impose the negative consequence because he has that power over me.

Who has the power, here? This was a twitterverse slapfight. Then the media picked it up. And we know how much power the media has, in the Trumpian Age.

And so what if she's married to a politician? You already hated that politician, right? Positive attention was never a commodity you were selling. And let's be honest: the positive regard of Tragic Monkey of ISF was never a valuable currency to federal politicians anyway.

So what exactly was the negative consequence, here?

Tragic Monkey is the everyman. You may as well ask, as sweet Louise might, what do the opinions of average people mean? The negative consequence, for people with an ounce of empathy, is having the general public, the folks who elected that nice orange fella who appointed Mnuchin to his job, think that you're a cold hearted douchebag, out of touch with the real world.

Perhaps you think the real world is designer labels and righteous indignation about how much she's given to the country. It doesn't play like that.
 
I'd just like to know what the big deal is. She tweeted about the designer she was wearing? That's it? How often did we hear about what Michelle Obama was wearing. This chick's an actress too. That's her world. Much ado about nothing.

We didn't get the level of coverage of Michelle Obama over here in the UK that you did over in the US but I don't recall cases where Michelle Obama posted a picture of herself with hashtags for the various designers she was wearing. We would sometimes find out what designers Michelle Obama was wearing but that tended to be the news outlets who would find that out.

I also don't recall situations of Michelle Obama acting like a petulant child when criticised (and boy ! Was she criticised all the time !).

By all means play this down for partisan reasons, indeed on a global scale it's trivial scuttlebutt which won't bring down governments, but please don't pretend that Michelle Obama (or Nancy Reagan or Barbara Bush) would have behaved in anything like this shallow way - it's merely indicative of this woman's sense of entitlement, typical of this administration, and makes a mockery of "swamp draining".
 
I'd just like to know what the big deal is. She tweeted about the designer she was wearing? That's it? How often did we hear about what Michelle Obama was wearing.

From Michelle Obama herself? I don't recall a single occasion.
 
I'd just like to know what the big deal is. She tweeted about the designer she was wearing? That's it? How often did we hear about what Michelle Obama was wearing. This chick's an actress too. That's her world. Much ado about nothing.

We didn't get the level of coverage of Michelle Obama over here in the UK that you did over in the US but I don't recall cases where Michelle Obama posted a picture of herself with hashtags for the various designers she was wearing. We would sometimes find out what designers Michelle Obama was wearing but that tended to be the news outlets who would find that out.

I also don't recall situations of Michelle Obama acting like a petulant child when criticised (and boy ! Was she criticised all the time !).

By all means play this down for partisan reasons, indeed on a global scale it's trivial scuttlebutt which won't bring down governments, but please don't pretend that Michelle Obama (or Nancy Reagan or Barbara Bush) would have behaved in anything like this shallow way - it's merely indicative of this woman's sense of entitlement, typical of this administration, and makes a mockery of "swamp draining".

From Michelle Obama herself? I don't recall a single occasion.

Just to pile on; it's common for people to comment on what people are wearing when the person in question is famous (as Michelle Obama was during her husband's stint in the White House), but when its the person themselves that are tagging the designers they're wearing, it's really rather tacky, especially when the person in question is married to someone in a government position and was pictured getting off of a plane the American taxpayers pay for, not a private plane (which, I might add, Mnuchin could absolutely afford to do). Michelle Obama was never that crass, to my recollection. Louise Linton, on the other hand, was extremely tacky both in her Instagram post and her response to the person who called her out on her tackiness. It probably didn't warrant the amount of attention it got, but to be fair, if Ms. Linton had not responded, it probably would have died a swift death and be buried in the morass of the internet. She responded, however, and her response was both crass and outright rude. She may have deleted the post, but someone had already taken a screenshot, so she will likely never live it down, despite apologies. For reference, here is the (now deleted) post including both the comment calling her out and her response, although it appears to be slightly cut off. Might provide better context to the blowup for you.

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Yes, I think the bit that stuck in many people's craw was that she claimed that no-one had given more financially OR in self sacrifice than she and her husband. I think that someone who's family member has been killed in the line of duty or someone who themselves have received life-changing injuries in the service of their country has given more than an actress and her financier husband who have paid as little tax as they can get away with and appear to be swanning around at the country's expense.
 
Yes, I think the bit that stuck in many people's craw was that she claimed that no-one had given more financially OR in self sacrifice than she and her husband. I think that someone who's family member has been killed in the line of duty or someone who themselves have received life-changing injuries in the service of their country has given more than an actress and her financier husband who have paid as little tax as they can get away with and appear to be swanning around at the country's expense.

Exactly. Suggesting that because you may have given more monetarily than someone else (although that's debatable given the current tax code) that you're somehow better than them is not only tacky as all get out but is also, to coin a phrase, "adorably out of touch". Show me someone who lost a family member or spouse to war and someone who's rich and actually pays the legal amount they owe in taxes and ask me who sacrificed more, and I will point to the person who lost a family member or spouse every time. Lives are priceless; money is nothing more than material wealth and means very little in the grand scheme of things.
 
LOL. My boss can fire me if I don't do my job. That's a negative consequence, right? And my boss can impose the negative consequence because he has that power over me.

Who has the power, here? This was a twitterverse slapfight. Then the media picked it up. And we know how much power the media has, in the Trumpian Age.

And so what if she's married to a politician? You already hated that politician, right? Positive attention was never a commodity you were selling. And let's be honest: the positive regard of Tragic Monkey of ISF was never a valuable currency to federal politicians anyway.

So what exactly was the negative consequence, here?

Encouraging hostility toward yourself is a negative consequence in itself, whether it results in immediate measurable results or not. Suppose this lady seeks an acting job. Will being publicly scorned and disliked a) improve her chances of getting the job, b) have no effect on her chances of getting the job, c) reduce her chances of getting the job? Compared to not having made a jerk of herself publically she's running risk she didn't need to, which is a negative outcome. She has increased the risk of bad things happening to herself--and her politician husband.

What are her husband's chances of getting offered to run as VP next time, if the party knows they'll be handing the opposition a goldmine of out-of-touch spoiled rich brat quotes to use against them? That you don't find her comments and actions bad doesn't mean everybody else doesn't. It's a risk that a politician's wife who didn't say those things doesn't have. She's added baggage to herself and her husband.
 
Just to pile on; it's common for people to comment on what people are wearing when the person in question is famous (as Michelle Obama was during her husband's stint in the White House), but when its the person themselves that are tagging the designers they're wearing, it's really rather tacky, especially when the person in question is married to someone in a government position and was pictured getting off of a plane the American taxpayers pay for, not a private plane (which, I might add, Mnuchin could absolutely afford to do). Michelle Obama was never that crass, to my recollection. Louise Linton, on the other hand, was extremely tacky both in her Instagram post and her response to the person who called her out on her tackiness. It probably didn't warrant the amount of attention it got, but to be fair, if Ms. Linton had not responded, it probably would have died a swift death and be buried in the morass of the internet. She responded, however, and her response was both crass and outright rude. She may have deleted the post, but someone had already taken a screenshot, so she will likely never live it down, despite apologies. For reference, here is the (now deleted) post including both the comment calling her out and her response, although it appears to be slightly cut off. Might provide better context to the blowup for you.

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As a side note a number of celebs have crashed for varying amounts of time over similar stupid things they did or said. If ya can't take the heat, hop out of the oven!!!!!!
 

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