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Chanakya said:
I don’t know, I don’t think I’m coming back to this thread. Nothing to learn here, nothing to contribute here either (so far as I myself am concerned), and nothing to even laugh at without feeling uncomfortable.
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I know what you mean. Many posters on this forum ignite the same despair and concern. It feels mostly pointless to continue in the customary fashion. We are not dealing with sandwich-packing picnics here…
 
abaddon said:
Now, since our OP saw fit to publically post names, numbers and emails for his local protagonists,
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Yep. No need to live underground. The "celebs" love attention. And anyone doing good always have no problem on it being spoken about or even get a monument or whatever. It is also good for society to hear about the good and be inspired to follow the good.

abaddon said:
I saw fit to ask such people about it. As could you or anyone else here.
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Good. They will be very happy seeing that their good actions get to be noticed seeing that Robertson is really "off the map". Or should I say "was"

abaddon said:
The responses I received were very polite but to the point.
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Yep seeing that we are now in the open it should be.

abaddon said:
While happy to confirm various points, it was made clear that they didn't want to get dragged back into this, having had a sufficient dose of pain in their community.
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Now that is strange. Having done all this good and then speaking about their "pain". So what they did caused them a lot of pain. And they fear more.

So the question is now. What did they do that caused them this "pain".

I mean. They did "good"! Now the question is how can good cause "pain" and fear? Or the unthinkable. They are the Christians. And in this thread a lot has already been said against them. You change your mind now concerning them?

Or maybe the wrong caught up with them? Maybe you were blinded in thinking that these "good Christians" did everything that is good. Is that what you are advocating? Good Christians found at last. In my hometown. Or maybe you were blinded? With lies.

abaddon said:
I have to respect that and hence do not cite them, quote them or otherwise impose on them in any way.
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Yep. That they asked that of you. So why do they want you to keep secrets. Good people doing very good things want to hide it now? You really believe them? You have some proof that, that is what good people do with their good actions?

But:

I warned you that you are busy with the right idea but got caught in the ways of the Christians. Gossiping. They know their wrong ways very well. Speaking about someone in his absence. Very wrong. No truth in that. Only to you.

That is why I did it in the opposite way. The forum way. That e-mails you saw was handled in the way of a forum. Now one has a secretive way and the other a forum way. The Christians are correct or the forum is. What do you say?
 
abaddon said:
Dunno if extortionist fits, but he has certainly solicited donations in the past.

http://www.geocities.ws/johanabrahams/page9.html
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That was 12 years ago. I grew much in that time. Discovered another wrong action of the Christians. You can add that to your list. But I actually gave another cite in this forum. You should rather go there. More recent development.
 
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Chanakya said:
That site is in some language, not German (of which I do have a smattering) but similar to German. Dutch perhaps? At least the telephone numbers are clearly intelligible.

Good of you to take the trouble to check back on all of this. Anyway the details don’t really matter, I’ll take your word for it that you’ve found out that he isn’t trolling -- which leaves the one and only possibility (which I won’t spell out again, in order not to repeatedly breach the MA).
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It is actually Afrikaans. But there is an English translation in the more up to date one. The more up to date one has that information and also more recent information. Why struggle with Afrikaans.
 
Craig4 said:
I'm dying to hear the other side of that story.
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I am still alive. But do not tell her. She would feel like dying. Reason. She has not found forgiveness. Forgiveness is not to be found in hiding. Only "pain". But alt least you can tell her that I found it. She is always running away when she see me. In the more recent "Bible" there is a letter about me meeting with her in the supermarket. She could not run. She was right in front of me in the row at the till.
 
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Chanakya said:
ETA : And irrespective of his godliness or otherwise, why on earth is he going around splashing his personal life in public like that?
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It is my Bible. God has one. We know all about Him through that. A Bible is you opened. Only that way we can have real relationship. You have to know me. Everybody in Robertson know me. We can have an open honest relationship. Those that want to. But like you. They are hiding away. And you? You are still hiding. Hiding from me. I know you. Just the detail differ.

Your problem is you do not believe in wrong eradicated. Like my wife, like the so called Christians etc. Care to advance?
 
Argumemnon said:
If you create it, then you have it. You can't not have your cake and have it too.
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It is still part of your creation. Have to create it again and again and again. It is not lasting. It is not a part of you as a being. When it is you do not have to create it. It is then everlasting. Now that is something! To have everlasting joy, peace, love, etc.

Maybe you should check with other Christians.


Argumemnon said:
Dude, seriously, get some help.
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Why? Can the Almighty not make me a wife for Him? He made me in the first place. He makes men, women, children . . just everything.
 
fagin said:
People who think they are god are often kept in the same places as people who think they are Napoleon.
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Yep. Agree. They should not think it. They should know it. And they should know the way by which it happened. And be able to explain it.
 
Wow. Someone who believes they are god and expresses approval for a prayer for the end times. This does not bode well.
 
Johanabrahams said:
I am still alive. But do not tell her. She would feel like dying. Reason. She has not found forgiveness. Forgiveness is not to be found in hiding. Only "pain". But alt least you can tell her that I found it. She is always running away when she see me. In the more recent "Bible" there is a letter about me meeting with her in the supermarket. She could not run. She was right in front of me in the row at the till.
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So, referencing only non-spiritual events, what happened right before the other person got the Zulu war-club?
 
Some more teaching.
Ok you guys saw that there is something in Robertson you do not understand. Seems the webpage you got was about “fighting”. Lack of forgiveness cause fighting. Lack of forgiveness cause “banning” My wife fought against me. Robertson fought against me. Bad! We should forgive.
I learned it. You are welcome to ask the “happy to talk” ones if these words were used by me all the time.

“I forgive you!”
That is the secret. That is the origin of “pain” and fear. That is God fighting! Because God wants everybody to live in peace and harmony. He died for that. We are His children. But sadly we are all fighting one another.
You will see my Life in Die Herberg. Grown-ups fighting against the children. Sad. And you will see the “Church of God” condoning it. Sad. So God started fighting against the “fighters”.
By forgiveness.
And these fighters are those in control. The “bosses”. Sad. We are controlled by those we have chosen to rule us. And they are doing it by fighting and unforgiveness.
Sad.
But I stood up in the power of God. Taking on the whole world. Started in Die Herberg. Moved out in the town of Robertson. Moved out on the Internet.
The Believers:
Some teaching to them:
http://forums.delphiforums.com/jesusplace/messages/?msg=23865.1
http://forums.delphiforums.com/heisrisen/messages/?msg=120219.1
And then the practical living of the teaching:
http://forums.delphiforums.com/heisrisen/messages/?msg=120036.94
http://forums.delphiforums.com/king/messages/?msg=424.7
And here also. Teaching those that want to see how to fight for the good cause in God’s power. No need to do it alone. God is with you.



Something worthy to live for.
 
Your claims of forgiving people ring hollow. You don't want to forgive them, you just want to make a huge display to all and sundry of how forgiving you are. Your friend calls you a bad name, you walk around confronting strangers in the street relaying the nasty name you he called you and asking whether what your friend did was a bad thing or not.
One of the reverends is rude to you in a store... you walk around with him confronting random strangers relaying the story of how rude he was to you and asking for their judgment. What you're really doing is exacting revenge, and then when they get upset with you for your badgering, or throw you out of the store, or ban you from their church, or get an interdict against you for your badgering, you magnanimously claim that you forgive them. How holy of you.

It's all a show, but you'll never recognise your own failings in any of this because you think you're always right.

Sooooo many people with court orders against you (which is not to say i believe your exaggerations), so many who think you have lost your senses. They're all wrong, of course. You're the one who is right. :rolleyes: You're great at judging others.
 
Beady said:
Do you even know what "the Biblical sense" of "to know" means? Humor seems to be completely beyond you. Well, to be fair, most religious folk find this portrait offensive. Come to think of it, however, the Bible never portrays a happy God. Does any religion?[qimg]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170817/724ae8708f3dabf40b24f603334e0d45.jpg[/qimg]

This signature is intended to irritate people.
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This one's belly-laughing away.

And this one's only smiling, not belly-laughing, but as you can see he has good reason to be very happy.
 
Johanabrahams said:
Well human beings can not take much. As for me. Glad you are just honest. Go for it. Let us see how far they can take it.



Well . . .whatever. But at least you have the freedom with me to be totally honest. Well now as far as you will be allowed. But if you really want to experience total freedom. Go to God's forum.



Can not speak for the others. As for me. Love you and have to give Life to you.
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Johan, I think I owe you an apology for that post of mine. I absolutely wouldn't have spoken in those terms to you (or in your presence) IRL, and therefore it was inappropriate here as well.

Very sporting of you to take it in that spirit. Irrespective of the rest of what you say, that stands out.

But to say what I'd said earlier in less offensive language (and without any offensive intent at all), why don't you try seeking professional medical help? I think it would do you good.

No offense meant. I'm out of here now, but perhaps you could consider doing that?
 
The Fear of God

So why do Robertson Fear me.

It is the Fear of God.

http://forums.delphiforums.com/heisrisen/messages/?msg=120219.1


The Fear is just this.

The present day "rulers" being revealed as wrong.

So what was there wrong.

Banning God.

(They actually banned the Truth. I didn't physically did anything wrong.)

Yep. Bad punishment were the ways of Die Herberg. And they ruled by the power of fear. Fear from the children by them inflicting pain. And not just that. There was another spirit present. Anger. Rejection.

NO LOVE!

And it was taught by the "church"

And I was banned for bringing in the Power of Forgiveness

They didn't believe in that Power.

So they had to learn.

And they banned me. From my wife. From my children and from all the churches.

And I started to Forgive them.

And they are learning about the Power of Forgiveness which they didn't believe in. They are learning about the Power of Love so that they can rule in Die Herberg by those powers and not the ones the church teached. This goes against their pride. It goes against them having established themselves as "rulers".

Surely they will fight. But God is a greater Fighter! He knows how to War!

https://www.christianforums.com/threads/the-horse-and-the-donkey.7998265/

So some questions to ask for those "happy to speak behind my back".

Also wrong but ask some real questions that will get you banned too.

See what is going on!

They give you guys their judgment.

Just go from the point that you want the facts. You will judge for yourself.

Right.

1. Did Johan speak these words: I forgive you?

2. If yes. Why? Give me a situation that you can remember. Give me the facts. If no then still. Give me a situation. For you to judge.

3. Johan said you punished in Die Herberg by infliction of bodily pain. True or false.

3. Johan said that your court orders brought a division between him and his family.

4. Johan said that he never went to court to establish the wrong of dividing him with his family by "your court orders". He forgave you. But he revealed the wrong. And that was the reason for your pain and fear and why you are hiding and "happily speaking behind his back.
 
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Johanabrahams said:
The Fear of God

So why do Robertson Fear me.

It is the Fear of God.

http://forums.delphiforums.com/heisrisen/messages/?msg=120219.1


The Fear is just this.

The present day "rulers" being revealed as wrong.

So what was there wrong.

Banning God.

(They actually banned the Truth. I didn't physically did anything wrong.)

Yep. Bad punishment were the ways of Die Herberg. And they ruled by the power of fear. Fear from the children by them inflicting pain. And not just that. There was another spirit present. Anger. Rejection.

NO LOVE!

And it was taught by the "church"

And I was banned for bringing in the Power of Forgiveness

They didn't believe in that Power.

So they had to learn.

And they banned me. From my wife. From my children and from all the churches.

And I started to Forgive them.

And they are learning about the Power of Forgiveness which they didn't believe in. They are learning about the Power of Love so that they can rule in Die Herberg by those powers and not the ones the church teached. This goes against their pride. It goes against them having established themselves as "rulers".

Surely they will fight. But God is a greater Fighter! He knows how to War!

https://www.christianforums.com/threads/the-horse-and-the-donkey.7998265/

So some questions to ask for those "happy to speak behind my back".

Also wrong but ask some real questions that will get you banned too.

See what is going on!

They give you guys their judgment.

Just go from the point that you want the facts. You will judge for yourself.

Right.

1. Did Johan speak these words: I forgive you?

2. If yes. Why? Give me a situation that you can remember. Give me the facts. If no then still. Give me a situation. For you to judge.

3. Johan said you punished in Die Herberg by infliction of bodily pain. True or false.

3. Johan said that your court orders brought a division between him and his family.

4. Johan said that he never went to court to establish the wrong of dividing him with his family by "your court orders". He forgave you. But he revealed the wrong. And that was the reason for your pain and fear and why you are hiding and "happily speaking behind his back.
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Yeah, you've totally forgiven them. That really comes across. There's so much forgiveness there, it oozes like a greenish pus from an infected wound. Funny how forgiveness and vitriol can look so much alike.

Oh and *********** seriously, you're a god damned god and you're grousing about being banned from an Internet forum? There's no lightening bolt you can call down on them? No plague of locusts. Perhaps a community wide outbreak of jock itch? You just get on the internet and talk about your grace, and you're our mother or some such nonsense? Pathetic.
 
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