Sessions on the way out?

logger said:
Lol shakes head

Actually I think Sessions could have offered much more than Rosenstein. Also I'd like to see many more investigations started with hillary and the previous admin. And Sessions seems to be more like a timid republican.
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:jaw-dropp:confused: You got to be kidding? Sessions is to the right of YOU! There is nothing timid about Sessions. I hate the bastard.

He's a bull, he's an ass, he's a jerk, but he's not going to break the law just because the President or you want him to. You both want him to stop an investigation into his ties with Russia where there is considerable troubling evidence and start a politically motivated investigation into his opponent in the last election who was investigated for close to 2 years that the FBI determined there was no evidence of wongdoing.
 
logger said:
Lol shakes head

Actually I think Sessions could have offered much more than Rosenstein. Also I'd like to see many more investigations started with hillary and the previous admin. And Sessions seems to be more like a timid republican.
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What could he have offered? Not appointing a special prosecutor?
 
logger said:
That's actually quite awful. There hasn't been a crime, our government is now looking for a crime, I'm truly surprised you're fine with that kind of government overreach. Rosenstein made a huge mistake not giving this investigation parameters. They will find something and it won't have anything to do with this Russian Collusion. Which is why Trump should fire Sessions and Rosenstein so he can put an AG in that will fire Mueller. Its a sham, its a soft coup that is happening now and Trump needs to get some balls and meet them on the political battle field. He's pussy footed around with this long enough. He needs to burn things down at this point, it's outrageous what is going on and it's his own damn fault!

This is what happens when you let the corrupt left get away with whatever they want.
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Of course they are looking for crimes. There is no overreach. Thats the job of the special prosecutor. It is his job to get to the bottom of this and determine if Trump or his associates committed any crimes. And at the moment, there's is plenty of evidence suggesting that Manafort, Sessions, Jr, Kushner and the President committed crimes. Now maybe there are innocent explanations and if there are, Mueller will let us know.
 
acbytesla said:
What could he have offered? Not appointing a special prosecutor?
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Yes, there was no reason for it to be appointed. There is zero evidence, that's why their looking for it now. Do you not understand the ramifications of government on a fishing trip looking for a crime?
 
acbytesla said:
Of course they are looking for crimes. There is no overreach. Thats the job of the special prosecutor. It is his job to get to the bottom of this and determine if Trump or his associates committed any crimes. And at the moment, there's is plenty of evidence suggesting that Manafort, Sessions, Jr, Kushner and the President committed crimes. Now maybe there are innocent explanations and if there are, Mueller will let us know.
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No actually there isn't. Many democrats have admitted that.
 
logger said:
Is it possible to put yourself in the presidents shoes? Would you want your top law enforcement officer having to recuse himself from a mis-deed?
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The Attorney General has recused himself from a subject, not from a mis-deed. This is far from unprecedented. If, as you contend, recusal on a subject by an Attorney General necessitates resignation there'd be no purpose in recusal.
 
logger said:
Lol shakes head

Actually I think Sessions could have offered much more than Rosenstein. Also I'd like to see many more investigations started with hillary and the previous admin. And Sessions seems to be more like a timid republican.
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Sorry (not really of course) but it has been made quite clear that there is nothing functional there as to Hillary or Obama and to think there is is to mislead one's self for some weird, but not rational, reason.
 
logger said:
That's actually quite awful. There hasn't been a crime, our government is now looking for a crime, I'm truly surprised you're fine with that kind of government overreach. Rosenstein made a huge mistake not giving this investigation parameters. They will find something and it won't have anything to do with this Russian Collusion. Which is why Trump should fire Sessions and Rosenstein so he can put an AG in that will fire Mueller. Its a sham, its a soft coup that is happening now and Trump needs to get some balls and meet them on the political battle field. He's pussy footed around with this long enough. He needs to burn things down at this point, it's outrageous what is going on and it's his own damn fault!

This is what happens when you let the corrupt left get away with whatever they want.
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The corruption (except for the Russian's) part is all on the Trumpies. Waiting and watching for them to be brought down hard and permanent!!!!!
 
logger said:
Yes, there was no reason for it to be appointed. There is zero evidence, that's why their looking for it now. Do you not understand the ramifications of government on a fishing trip looking for a crime?
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The moment he fired the Director , there was no choice but to appoint a Special Prosecutor. The combination of Trump's own words and Comey's words offered significant evidence that the President was trying to stop the investigation into Flynn. This is classic obstruction of justice. Trump brought all of this on himself.

What do we know so far? That Trump Jr, Kushner, Flynn and Sessions all lied about Russian contacts. We know that they at a minimum attempted to collude. We know the President tried to stop the investigation by asking Comey and Intelligence officers.

If you think there isn't a reason to look further, your partisanship knows no limits. (Not that I thought it did.)
 
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logger said:
No actually there isn't. Many democrats have admitted that.
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And yet not one but TWO committees run by Republicans believe there are reasons to investigate the President and his associates.
 
acbytesla said:
The moment he fired the Director , there was no choice but to appoint a Special Prosecutor. The combination of Trump's own words and Comey's words offered significant evidence that the President was trying to stop the investigation into Flynn.
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The President's words were practically superfluous, but no less welcome for that : the appointment of a special prosecutor was Comey's expectation of the release of his memo, explicitly. Comey understands the mechanisms involved and how to engage them.

Trump is, of course, entirely clueless. I like to think the FBI (which surely has no love for Trump) is preparing an exquisitely awful end for Trump. Those poker nights at Comey's place may not be the innocent social events they appear to be.
 
logger said:
That's actually quite awful. There hasn't been a crime,
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How do you know that? Without an investigation, how can you say that?

I wish that these investigations were something other than a dirt digging expedition on Trump. The Russians really were very interested in our elections, to the point that they broke into election systems, and leaked data, and held meetings with campaign officials. I want to know why. If that includes digging dirt on Trump, so be it, but that shouldn't be the focus. It is the focus, but it shouldn't be. Oh, well. I think Trump himself contributed a great deal to making it so.


They will find something and it won't have anything to do with this Russian Collusion.
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If they dug every single thing they could possibly find about me in my whole life, they wouldn't find anything worth prosecuting. They might find a miscalculated tax return, but never deliberate fraud. They would find some teenage trespassing and underage drinking. They would find a trivial amount of mishandling classified documents in the distant past. None of it would be significant.

Are you saying that's not the case with Donald Trump? Are you saying that if you look hard enough, you'll find something illegal, like, really illegal? Not just a disputed interpretation of "self-gain" (or whatever that buzzword of the week was) in the tax code?

Well then, they need to keep up the investigation. If it's that obvious, it needs to be uncovered.







Meanwhile, on another note, this interaction between Trump and Sessions is yet another thing that is both astonishing and embarrassing. I can't believe I'm seeing this.
 
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