I see Sessions as joining a long line of Republican leaders who pretend to support Trump publicly to gain or retain political power, but who internally are seething with anger and resentment due to how Trump has treated them. Frankly I cannot think of many who Trump has not insulted, threatened, or belittled. And as always happens in these situations, these "supporters" are only waiting for the chance for revenge. Just wait until they scent "blood" and perceive Trump as weakened enough to undermine or openly attack. It will be gruesome.

That's a pretty accurate assessment. It will be like the scene at the end of Casino in the desert with Pesci. Trump is reckless in his attacks and insults. No President in history has mistreated the people around him as poorly as Trump has. They will be happy to bury him alive in his underwear in an open pit after taking their whacks with a baseball bat.
 
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It will be hilarious when Sessions is forced out for perhaps the only right thing he's done. The fact that he's one of the very few truly qualified individuals at the highest levels of the executive branch increases the lulz. Fire him, hellbeast! Like every other joke in this situation, it will be on you.
 
That's a pretty accurate assessment. It will be like the scene at the end of Casino in the desert with Pesci. Trump is reckless in his attacks and insults. No President in history has mistreated the people around him as poorly as Trump has. They will be happy to bury him alive in his underwear in an open pit after taking their whacks with a baseball bat.

I'll vote for that for trumpf!!! Twice at least!!!!!!!!!
 
I hope so, too, right after DJT fires him, which can't happen too soon. Weak on civil rights, heartless on immigration, starting absurd war on marijuana, wants more private prisons but no police reform -- horrible choice for AG in the first place.

Don't be silly. Sessions is hostile to civil rights, not weak on them.

Is this what it's like to watch one's two least favorite teams at the Super Bowl? I'm not invested enough into any sport to quite know.
 
I agree completely. I think the only true loyalty he has is maybe Ivanka. However, I wouldn't be surprised if she would feed him to the sharks if it would save her.

The $64 dollar question, at what point to Republicans bolt from him?

Why not (the shark's thing) - she certainly has no interest in incesting with him and she is way smarter. Which is why she bears special interest from the security people.
 
It will be hilarious when Sessions is forced out for perhaps the only right thing he's done. The fact that he's one of the very few truly qualified individuals at the highest levels of the executive branch increases the lulz. Fire him, hellbeast! Like every other joke in this situation, it will be on you.

I hate Sessions with a passion of a thousand hot suns. I think he is a racist pig. But you are right. He is actually qualified to do his job and Trump is berating him for doing the right thing. I can't imagine the craziness that will occur if Trump fires Sessions and then Mueller.

When Nixon fired AG Elliot Richardson, Deputy AG and William Ruckelshaus and the Special Prosecutor Archibald Cox during the Saturday Night Massacre it came out of the blue. Trump is building up to it.

This would be classic obstruction of justice.
 
I found this quite absorbing :

The Three Sessions Succession Scenarios

https://www.justsecurity.org/43477/sessions-succession-scenarios/

Scenario III: The Recess Appointment Elephant in the Room

Of course, if the individual President Trump desires to serve as Sessions’ successor is Senate confirmable, then nothing would stop President Trump from simply nominating the successor and naming someone else as the short-term Acting Attorney General under the Vacancies Reform Act. But on the assumption that the confirmation of a new Attorney General would be conditioned by the Senate upon some promise of non-interference in the Russia investigation, it stands to reason that this option, while legally straightforward, may be off the table politically.

But now we come to the elephant in the room: President Trump’s power to “recess-appoint” Sessions’s successor. Article II, Section 2, Clause 3 of the U.S. Constitution empowers the President “to fill up all Vacancies that may happen during the Recess of the Senate, by granting Commissions which shall expire at the End of their next Session.” And as the Supreme Court concluded three years ago in the Noel Canning case, “the Recess of the Senate” can include just about any formal recess that lasts 10 or more days, whether it’s an “inter-session” or “intra-session” recess. (Noel Canning also holds that the vacancy at issue need not arise during the recess, although both of these holdings were over the nominal dissents of four of the more conservative Justices.)

So if the Senate recesses for 10 days or more in August (which currently appears at least a decent likelihood), President Trump could simply recess appoint whoever he wants to serve as Attorney General until the end of the next Senate session (i.e., January 3, 2019). And that person would have the same authority as a Senate-confirmed Attorney General—which would likely include authority over the Special Counsel and the Russia investigation.
Short-term, but Trump is a short-term character. He lives entirely in himself and in the moment. So if this were a shell-game that's the shell I'd pick, shell 3.
 
NO. AND WHY? Was the President anticipating there being reasons that he would be investigated? The AG may be nominated by POTUS, but his allegiance is to the law and the nation.

And this recusel has hurt that allegiance to the law.
 
Oh bull. Are you really going to eat this crap sandwich the President is serving up? Not fair to the President? What is he, a child? The honorable thing is for the AG to do his job.
Just ignore the rantings of the lunatic in the White House and uphold the law.

Is it possible to put yourself in the presidents shoes? Would you want your top law enforcement officer having to recuse himself from a mis-deed?
 
I can't imagine Sessions openly attacking Trump. However, I can imagine Sessions quietly working with Republicans in Congress to protect his own reputation and political future if Trump were to fire him.

Well sure, because that's an honorable position to take! :rolleyes:
 
Trump knew he'd recused himself this whole time. He could have fired him at any point before this and been cheered by Democrats for it. But only now, when it turns out he was lying to your face for months about Russian collusion being fake news and you swallowed every word of it, only now does Sessions's recusal matter, because it's apparently an actual recusal and not a false promise, leaving Trump with no way to dispose of Mueller should he get too close.

Agreed! Amazing how the Comey thing went the same way.
 
And this recusel has hurt that allegiance to the law.

In his confirmation hearing, Sessions would only say that he would seek legal counsel about conflict of interests if anything about the campaign came up. He did, and he followed their advice. Shame on Trump if he thought cultish loyalty would save him from an investigation.
 
In his confirmation hearing, Sessions would only say that he would seek legal counsel about conflict of interests if anything about the campaign came up. He did, and he followed their advice. Shame on Trump if he thought cultish loyalty would save him from an investigation.

It's not about cultish loyalty, it's about being able to do the job unencumbered.
 
Is it possible to put yourself in the presidents shoes? Would you want your top law enforcement officer having to recuse himself from a mis-deed?

I don't get that. The President is appointing the number one law enforcement officer in the nation. Not a crony that will do his bidding.

Sessions did his job in recusing himself as the DAG did when he appropriately appointed a Special Prosecutor. Trump will have to ride it out. If he didn't do anything, he has no reason to fire anyone.
 
Why? Because you don't like the target of the investigation? I thought so.

Lol shakes head

Actually I think Sessions could have offered much more than Rosenstein. Also I'd like to see many more investigations started with hillary and the previous admin. And Sessions seems to be more like a timid republican.
 
I hate Sessions with a passion of a thousand hot suns. I think he is a racist pig. But you are right. He is actually qualified to do his job and Trump is berating him for doing the right thing. I can't imagine the craziness that will occur if Trump fires Sessions and then Mueller.
He's definitely the worst. It's not all racism, though. Sessions hates everyone's civil rights; there can be no other reason to push civil asset forfeiture, which has repeatedly proven to be a source of injustice.
When Nixon fired AG Elliot Richardson, Deputy AG and William Ruckelshaus and the Special Prosecutor Archibald Cox during the Saturday Night Massacre it came out of the blue. Trump is building up to it.

This would be classic obstruction of justice.
The only explanation I can think of is that the beast thinks that the extended build-up to firing Sessions will somehow make the decision seem perfectly reasonable. This is impossible of course, since the current occupant of the Oval Office has made it abundantly clear that it wants Sessions gone because it wants an end to the investigation of its campaign. Even if it smartened up and offered "better" reasons, the obstruction is out of the bag.
 
Sessions did his job in recusing himself as the DAG did when he appropriately appointed a Special Prosecutor. Trump will have to ride it out. If he didn't do anything, he has no reason to fire anyone.
That's actually quite awful. There hasn't been a crime, our government is now looking for a crime, I'm truly surprised you're fine with that kind of government overreach. Rosenstein made a huge mistake not giving this investigation parameters. They will find something and it won't have anything to do with this Russian Collusion. Which is why Trump should fire Sessions and Rosenstein so he can put an AG in that will fire Mueller. Its a sham, its a soft coup that is happening now and Trump needs to get some balls and meet them on the political battle field. He's pussy footed around with this long enough. He needs to burn things down at this point, it's outrageous what is going on and it's his own damn fault!

This is what happens when you let the corrupt left get away with whatever they want.
 

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