Craig4
Penultimate Amazing
You mean, except the "shape, date, and location"...?
*yawn*
None of which counts as evidence.
You mean, except the "shape, date, and location"...?
*yawn*
None of which counts as evidence.
What about local quarries of red and black stone, core samples of sunken ruins to match?
I have featured a location of at least one underwater arch, sunken off the coast of spain, along with other ruins.
What exactly are you basing your dismissal upon?
Maybe you could produce an alternative theory for the origin of the symbol?
This one is well founded.
Hogwarts must be a real location, because JK Rowling described it in such detail. Why would an author go into so much detail if it wasn't real?
You mean, except the "shape, date, and location"...?
*yawn*
JK Rowling wrote fiction, and never admitted otherwise.
Plato included Athens alongside Atlantis.
What about local quarries of red and black stone, core samples of sunken ruins to match?
I have featured a location of at least one underwater arch, sunken off the coast of spain, along with other ruins.
What exactly are you basing your dismissal upon?
Maybe you could produce an alternative theory for the origin of the symbol?
This one is well founded.
What about local quarries of red and black stone, core samples of sunken ruins to match?
I have featured a location of at least one underwater arch, sunken off the coast of spain, along with other ruins.
What exactly are you basing your dismissal upon?
Maybe you could produce an alternative theory for the origin of the symbol?
This one is well founded.
None of those prove any kind of link between Atlantis and a menorah.
I would elaborate, if I did not know that you would latch onto something tangential I'd say, respond to that, and ignore any of the points I'm making.
Instead, you can explain:
How do the date, location and shape prove your story?
Might be significant if black and red stone was rare or unusual, even if it were a clue... Red granite is common around The Mediterranean...
And the train to Hogwarts sets off from London. What's your evidence that Plato didn't tell everyone who asked that Atlantis was fictional?
How about an artifact with the name of the city on it?
According to you...
So, please tell us, what kind of archaeological experience you have, and what qualifications or training you have received that provides the background for your dismissal of the evidences provided herein?
What about local quarries of red and black stone, core samples of sunken ruins to match?
You want me to provide negative evidence?
Tricky endeavor.
So, instead of explaining why the shape, date and location of the symbol prove your point, as you claimed... You are going for the ad-hom?
Boring, but predicted.
Ad-hom?
If you are an expert, say so. Let's hear some letters? Mine are useless in this exchange. My B.S. is in Criminal Justice and Legal Studies, and my current M.A. efforts are in Political Science.
There has been copious amounts of evidence stacked into this thread that:
-the menorah was adopted, misunderstood, and re-interpreted
-powerful, popular symbols are often adopted without provenance
-sunken ruins where Plato said to find them, exist, as he described them...sorta
-the oldest menorah symbols look like half of 3 (or more) concentric circles atop a trident
-Plato was a "teacher" who wrote to inform, not mislead or misinform.
I understand rules of evidence.
You're making the positive claim that Plato thought Atlantis was historical -- WITHOUT EVIDENCE. Do you deny that the dialogues Plato wrote were fictional?
"Athens" is my evidence.
Also, the underwater evidence located in a form and location Plato described.
Have you used google earth on the Spanish coast yet???