Merged Is a a Trump impeachment likely?

[Belz...]

I believe I'm cute.

Evidence?

 

[Tommy Jeppesen]

18 USC Section 4

Obstruction being a felony, Comey would have had an obligation to report it to a judge, the Attorney General or some other authority. I guess it remains possible that he did indeed report it but in that case it seems odd that we wouldn't have heard about it already; I mean, there's your impeachable offense right there.

From the link

Whoever, having knowledge of the actual commission of a felony cognizable by a court of the United States, conceals and does not as soon as possible make known the same to some judge or other person in civil or military authority under the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

Care to explain what the highlite means?

 

[Meadmaker]

18 USC Section 4

Obstruction being a felony, Comey would have had an obligation to report it to a judge, the Attorney General or some other authority. I guess it remains possible that he did indeed report it but in that case it seems odd that we wouldn't have heard about it already; I mean, there's your impeachable offense right there.

I'm not sure about this, but I think he IS an authority.

At some point, he would prepare a report if he had reason to believe a crime was being committed and pass it to the AG.

People are talking about obstruction of justice as if there's an open and shut case here. Not only is the case not open and shut, it's barely open. Based on what we know publicly, Trump hasn't committed a crime.

On the other hand, there's a lot we don't know, and depending on what else we may find out, there could be a crime involved.

Obstruction of justice is one of those things, like perjury, that is often misunderstood. Not every lie told under oath is perjury. Not every failure to cooperate, or even interfere with, an investigation, is obstruction of justice.

I don't think Trump is capable of following the law for four years, and he may have already violated it, but let's not jump the gun on charging him. There's time.

 

[shemp]

I don't think Trump is capable of following the law for four years, and he may have already violated it, but let's not jump the gun on charging him. There's time.

Plenty of time.

Hang myself when I get enough rope
Can't clean up, though I know I should

 

[Mumbles]

At this point, I'd like to think so, but...

 

[Cleon]

Not gonna happen. Until Republican congresscritters start putting honesty ahead of partisanship, he's safe.

 

[bytewizard]

Zero chance of impeachment AND conviction. It's more likely Trump will stroke out or be assassinated.

 

[psionl0]

Not gonna happen. Until Republican congresscritters start putting honesty ahead of partisanship, he's safe.

Don't just single out the republicans. The first thing that any politician will think of before voting either way on an impeachment issue is, "Is my seat safe?"

Seriously though, this is just another straw to clutch at. Donald Trump is so despised in this forum that he could solve world poverty and implement every progressive agenda in the book and everybody here would still be saying "hang him!"

 

[Belz...]

Seriously though, this is just another straw to clutch at. Donald Trump is so despised in this forum that he could solve world poverty and implement every progressive agenda in the book and everybody here would still be saying "hang him!"

Seriously though? You followed that with total nonsense.

Tell me, what positive thing has Trump done that should have earned him accolades from the members here?

 

[Upchurch]

Seriously though, this is just another straw to clutch at. Donald Trump is so despised in this forum that he could solve world poverty and implement every progressive agenda in the book and everybody here would still be saying "hang him!"

Donald Trump is despised because he is, in no way, fit to be President. He demonstrates this on an almost daily basis. We've had decades of exposure to Donald Trump and he is acting pretty much true to form.

Why paint opposition to him as if it were irrational?

 

[Spindrift]

Don't just single out the republicans. The first thing that any politician will think of before voting either way on an impeachment issue is, "Is my seat safe?"

Seriously though, this is just another straw to clutch at. Donald Trump is so despised in this forum that he could solve world poverty and implement every progressive agenda in the book and everybody here would still be saying "hang him!"

The reason Trump is so despised is because he would never address world poverty and any other progressive agenda item. When he actually does something along those lines then we can discuss it.

Plus everything that has happened to Trump since he was sworn in has been of his own doing. As the saying goes, "Never interrupt your enemy when they are making a mistake."

 

[Crossbow]

... snipped for relevance ...

Seriously though, this is just another straw to clutch at. Donald Trump is so despised in this forum that he could solve world poverty and implement every progressive agenda in the book and everybody here would still be saying "hang him!"

Just to focus on the last bit of your posting, I would say that you are quite wrong.

If Trump actually did do something positive, then he would generate positive support. However, Trump has yet to do anything positive.

In fact, about the only thing that I can think of that he has done which is even remotely positive is where he provided a couple of hundred million dollars in tax breaks to the Carrier Company so that they would keep a couple hundred jobs here in America.

I would say that the deal he made was more of bribe than a deal, and it was a bad bribe at that.

 

[Crossbow]

I noticed that no one else has posted this particular news item regarding a Trump impeachment, so I will do so now ...

http://www.newsweek.com/trump-impeachment-odds-impeach-comey-611015

TRUMP IMPEACHMENT ODDS: PRESIDENT NOT LIKELY TO SERVE FOUR YEARS, ACCORDING TO BOOKMAKERS

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British betting company Ladbrokes has cut the price of a Trump impeachment to odds-on at 4-5 from 11-10. Those new odds equate to a 55.6 percent probability that the Senate will remove the president from office.

...

 

[Babbylonian]

Donald Trump is despised because he is, in no way, fit to be President. He demonstrates this on an almost daily basis. We've had decades of exposure to Donald Trump and he is acting pretty much true to form.

Why paint opposition to him as if it were irrational?

Because it's easier than acknowledging that not only is it likely a criminal that needs to be impeached, but it has done nothing particularly useful for its own supporters, let alone the entire nation. Defending it is, at virtually every level, the most empty of gestures; the only thing truly accomplished is making "liberals/progressives" angry, which for some I guess is a primary goal. It's too bad that it's apparently necessary to flush the quality of our government down the toilet to fully accomplish such a laudable goal.

 

[Belz...]

Because it's easier than acknowledging that not only is it likely a criminal that needs to be impeached, but it has done nothing particularly useful for its own supporters, let alone the entire nation.

So it's a sunk cost issue as much as a partisan issue?

 

[SOdhner]

This whole presidenting thing is getting in the way of his cable news consumption and golfing schedule.

Is it, though? I think the job of President is a WHOLE lot easier than it normally would be if you're someone like Trump that doesn't worry about being informed or thinking of all the nuance and potential ramifications of everything. I think he has lots of time for watching television, playing golf, and being president.

Don't just single out the republicans. The first thing that any politician will think of before voting either way on an impeachment issue is, "Is my seat safe?"

Well I can't really argue with that. And that's the one reason that I think they might impeach - I'm not betting on it, but it's possible that as the midterm approaches if this whirlwind of scandal continues they'll decide the only thing to do to protect themselves is to show that they're not with that guy.

Still unlikely, but possible.

Donald Trump is so despised in this forum that he could solve world poverty and implement every progressive agenda in the book and everybody here would still be saying "hang him!"

I'd sure love to test that hypothesis. All we have to do is get Trump to do literally anything good, and we can see whether or not you're right.

 

[xjx388]

From the link


Care to explain what the highlite means?

I think it's clear. In Comey's case, since he reports to the Director of National Intelligence, that would be the person to report to. I'm sure he could also report to the AG.

 

[Tony Stark]

Don't just single out the republicans. The first thing that any politician will think of before voting either way on an impeachment issue is, "Is my seat safe?"

Seriously though, this is just another straw to clutch at. Donald Trump is so despised in this forum that he could solve world poverty and implement every progressive agenda in the book and everybody here would still be saying "hang him!"

Um, no, if Trump somehow magically became the most competent leader in world history, people would change their opinion of him.

But Trump is a very, very bad leader. He is extremely incompetent, ignorant, stupid, and dishonest. Plus he's a freaking Republican who's trying to **** over poor people so that rich people can get richer.

Trump has earned every single bit of hate that he gets. Actually, he deserves way more. It being as high as it is (like 40%) is proof that there is something deeply wrong with America.

 

[Cleon]

Don't just single out the republicans. The first thing that any politician will think of before voting either way on an impeachment issue is, "Is my seat safe?"

I single out the Republicans because they hold the majority in both houses and literally nothing can happen unless Republican leadership approves it.

Seriously though, this is just another straw to clutch at. Donald Trump is so despised in this forum that he could solve world poverty and implement every progressive agenda in the book and everybody here would still be saying "hang him!"

Well, when he accomplishes something so noteworthy, do let us know so we can evaluate your prediction.

Meanwhile, the policies Trump wants to implement would adversely affect me and people I care about, so I can't bring myself to be all that bothered by the "waaaah you just hate Trump" argument.

 

[acbytesla]

Not gonna happen. Until Republican congresscritters start putting honesty ahead of partisanship, he's safe.

ROFLMAO. That is never going to happen.

But they will remove a tumor from their party.