Ed Clintonemails.com: Who is Eric Hoteham Part 3

[The Big Dog]

I've shown that the only major difference is her gender and you don't argue against it.

wait, you showed that the only major difference between Clinton and Trump is her gender.

That is amazing. Clinton/Trump, two peas in a pod, huh?

fantastic!

 

[Ziggurat]

At this point you're just lying.
Why?

I've shown that the only major difference is her gender and you don't argue against it.

I did argue against it. I pointed out multiple other major differences. So you're the one lying, not me.

Plus, you never showed that the only major difference is her gender. You've only declared it to be so. And regardless of whatever differences there are, you still have no evidence that being a woman hurt her.

 

[Ziggurat]

wait, you showed that the only major difference between Clinton and Trump is her gender.

That is amazing. Clinton/Trump, two peas in a pod, huh?

fantastic!

Maybe that should be her 2020 campaign slogan. "Clinton: she's just like Trump!"

 

[Newtons Bit]

Obama, a black man, broke the record for total number of votes.
Clinton got less votes than Obama, even though the country has grown in the past 8 years.

Why should I think that some sort of -ism is to blame for Clinton's poor performance, when racism didn't make Obama lose, and not just the fact that she was a less inspiring candidate?

 

[NoahFence]

Obama, a black man, broke the record for total number of votes.
Clinton got less votes than Obama, even though the country has grown in the past 8 years.

Why should I think that some sort of -ism is to blame for Clinton's poor performance, when racism didn't make Obama lose, and not just the fact that she was a less inspiring candidate?

Sexism didn't make her lose. But it sure as hell wasn't a non issue like these people are trying to make it out to be.

 

[NoahFence]

I did argue against it. I pointed out multiple other major differences.

You did nothing of the sort.

 

[Ziggurat]

Sexism didn't make her lose. But it sure as hell wasn't a non issue like these people are trying to make it out to be.

Then you should have some actual evidence of that.

But you don't.

 

[NoahFence]

Then you should have some actual evidence of that.

But you don't.

Every knock on Hillary has either been on display with every other politician in history, and especially with her opponent this time.

Truly, I have no *********** idea what is going on in your head that makes you think I've not detailed this enough. You're being intentionally obtuse because you are unable to refute it. Stop it.

TELL ME WHAT THE **** YOU WILL ACCEPT.


You people are maddening. Always whining about evidence and ignoring it when it shows up because it's unsettling, or in some way against your preconceived ********.

 

[The Big Dog]

Every knock on Hillary has either been on display with every other politician in history, and especially with her opponent this time.

This is hilarious, you keep saying that Hillary has all these flaws, yet you seem to believe that sexism is the reason she lost.

It does not get better than that.

 

[NoahFence]

This is hilarious, you keep saying that Hillary has all these flaws, yet you seem to believe that sexism is the reason she lost.

It does not get better than that.

If the only difference is her sex what else should we go by?

None of you people have EVER said what it is that separates her, makes her so much worse than everyone else that we needed to elect Donald Trump (?) president.

You say she's crooked - well so is he, only far far worse.

So what is it? HONESTLY. Don't tell me I'm wrong, show me why. You can't and won't.

It's either because you're dishonest with yourself and everyone or because you know I'm right and are too proud to admit it. The only other option is that I'm wrong, and I'm wrong because.......


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[Ziggurat]

Every knock on Hillary has either been on display with every other politician in history, and especially with her opponent this time.

Again, no. Hillary is a progressive, Trump is not. That's not a knock for everyone, but it is for a lot of people. That's a substantive difference between them.

Truly, I have no *********** idea what is going on in your head that makes you think I've not detailed this enough.

It's not what's going on in my head, it's what's going on in this thread: namely, any evidence that Hillary's sex had anything to do with anything.

You're being intentionally obtuse because you are unable to refute it. Stop it.

No. You're being intentionally obtuse because you are unable to support it.

TELL ME WHAT THE **** YOU WILL ACCEPT.

Evidence that people didn't vote for Hillary because of her sex. Polling results about why people voted one way or another, for example.

You people are maddening. Always whining about evidence and ignoring it when it shows up because it's unsettling, or in some way against your preconceived ********.

I can't ignore what doesn't even exist. You keep making this claim, but can't point to anything except your own incredulity. Why not?

 

[The Big Dog]

If the only difference is her sex what else should we go by?

None of you people have EVER said what it is that separates her, makes her so much worse than everyone else that we needed to elect Donald Trump (?) president.

You say she's crooked - well so is he, only far far worse.

So what is it? HONESTLY. Don't tell me I'm wrong, show me why. You can't and won't.

It's either because you're dishonest with yourself and everyone or because you know I'm right and are too proud to admit it. The only other option is that I'm wrong, and I'm wrong because.......


______________________________________

(Fill in the blank)

The only other option is that I'm wrong, and I'm wrong because.......


you have repeatedly admitted that she was a flawed candidate, add that to the fact she ran a terrible campaign, and what do you expect?

On point here, it is pure sophistry to say "all politicians lie." The fact is that Hillary lied early, often and eagerly while claiming she was being transparent. She did not just lie, she was really bad at it.

 

[Ziggurat]

If the only difference is her sex what else should we go by?

But it isn't the only difference.

None of you people have EVER said what it is that separates her, makes her so much worse than everyone else that we needed to elect Donald Trump (?) president.

So much worse? No, that's not the way it works. One need only be marginally worse than one's opponent in order to lose. And one only need be marginally worse in the eyes of a marginally larger part of the electorate in enough states to lose.

You say she's crooked - well so is he, only far far worse.

Not everyone shares that opinion. And Hillary being a woman isn't the only reason someone might feel that way.

For example, if one is very conservative, one might be less forgiving of Hillary for her corruption than Trump for his. That might not be fair, but it need not be sexist either.

So what is it? HONESTLY. Don't tell me I'm wrong, show me why. You can't and won't.

That's not the way it works. You made the claim. The burden of proof is on you. Prove you're right.

You can't and you won't.

 

[Newtons Bit]

Sexism didn't make her lose. But it sure as hell wasn't a non issue like these people are trying to make it out to be.

Again, why should I believe that sexism turned people off to Clinton but racism didn't turn people off to Obama?

 

[NoahFence]

Again, why should I believe that sexism turned people off to Clinton but racism didn't turn people off to Obama?

Oh, I'm sure racism turned people off of Obama as well. Just not as much as sexism turned some people off of Clinton. A person would have to have a severe disconnect from reality to think sexism played NO part.

 

[AlaskaBushPilot]

Sexism didn't make her lose. But it sure as hell wasn't a non issue like these people are trying to make it out to be.

The relentless sexism is yours. Furthermore, one of the reasons Trump won was blowback from exactly this sort of PC sexism.

People are pretty sick of the incessant PC shaming/guilt-tripping schtick, and all Trump the Entertainer had to do was stand up to it.

It's a giant **** test for men, this shaming and guilt-tripping, playing the victim at the same time as insisting women are equals to men - and the men who cow-tow to it don't get laid, nor win this last election.

I want to bare my boobs in public and wear a pussy hat, but then feint on my couch when I hear the word from a man I don't like... I want to hate men for being men except that when I want to make a woman out of him, I will shame him with "man up".

Hysterical nonsense.

 

[The Big Dog]

Oh, I'm sure racism turned people off of Obama as well. Just not as much as sexism turned some people off of Clinton. A person would have to have a severe disconnect from reality to think sexism played NO part.

yet you have refused to show it in any fashion whatsoever.

This is the clearest example of an argument from incredulity one is likely to see.

 

[logger]

The relentless sexism is yours. Furthermore, one of the reasons Trump won was blowback from exactly this sort of PC sexism.

People are pretty sick of the incessant PC shaming/guilt-tripping schtick, and all Trump the Entertainer had to do was stand up to it.

It's a giant **** test for men, this shaming and guilt-tripping, playing the victim at the same time as insisting women are equals to men - and the men who cow-tow to it don't get laid, nor win this last election.

I want to bare my boobs in public and wear a pussy hat, but then feint on my couch when I hear the word from a man I don't like... I want to hate men for being men except that when I want to make a woman out of him, I will shame him with "man up".

Hysterical nonsense.

Spot on!

 

[The Big Dog]

Judicial Watch claims more evidence of classified info in Clinton emails

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/j...sified-info-in-clinton-emails/article/2621915

Judicial watch is continuing to battle for your right to know, and the results are not pretty for Hillary partisans.

Remember when Hillary lied and said she had turned over all of her emails and that the emails did not include classified data?

the voters certainly did.

 

[phiwum]

There's really no evidence that gender hampered her. In fact, it's likely the other way around.

She hampered gender?