Merged A God of Love / The Living God

[Slowvehicle]

In your opinion.

No, not at all. Your intransigence is in the record, available to anyone who cares to read it.

No need to. We all make mistakes. And we should all be part of correcting them. So we should not be so sensitive about them.

No, not at all. You made an unsubstantiated claim about an "error" I made--and yet you are unable to demonstrate the error about which you choose to condescend to me.

You have made an incorrect claim. You need to repair it, or be exposed as dishonest.

That I am doing. Actually that took a great deal of love to die for those that has no interest in Him so that they have the means of forgiveness. Because of a lack of forgiveness human beings live in constant pain.

No, not at all. Your repetition of an unsubstantiated superstition is not evidence, no matter how much you, personally, choose to believe that superstition. You have offered nothing, nothing at all to support your claims beyond the mere fact that you believe the superstition to which you are in thrall. your anecdotes about your beliefs are not evidence.

I am busy . .you just fail to see.

No, not at all. It is patent that you have nothing with which to support your claims, or you would have demonstrated such support.

You have yet to even begin to make any such demonstration.

We have different understanding about that.

Right. You have demonstrably incorrect and unsubstantiated claims. I have evidential reality.

But that does not mean that I do not love you . . .meaning in practice . . that I enjoy being in conversation with you. On the other hand you might because of lack of love not enjoy having conversation with me.

Right. You "love" me enough to lie about what I am saying...and to pretend that your unsubstantiated superstitions are evidence for your unsubstantiated superstitions.

Which . . .as I said. . . .obviously God died for to give me the power of forgiveness . . .which you do not have because of lack of faith in His love.

This is an egregious misuse of the term, "obviously". Once might also quibble about your misuse of the term, "forgiveness"...

As I said . . .you need faith and love . . .which is obviously the True remedy.

Love Johan

...in your opinion, in thrall as you are to your superstition.

I realize you will read none of this--but you have yet to even begin to provide support for your superstitious claims.

 

[Johanabrahams]

Sorry. Free will and all that. YOU mess up, YOU fix it. You lot are pretty good at screwing things up, but not so good at putting it all back.

You know we cannot fix it . . and still you let us struggle.

You are wrong about a great many things.

Well . . .luckily you pitched to help. But you are not much of a helper. So will have to struggle in my ignorance. But I forgive you.

You may forgive me, but that's your prerogative.

Yep . . but I choose the correct path.

I gave you life and free will, and if this is how you choose to spend it, well, perhaps other people will do better.

You made us. Yet you are still hoping that we will become better than you made us. Not much of a hope there don't you think?

Bacon is Love.

You sure? You seems very unsure about everything.

Love Johan

 

[Johanabrahams]

I provide yourself as an example of the excellent judgement of humans.

I am not human . . .God is my Father.

After all, it is due to the excellent judgement of humans that you are able make your various pronouncements to everyone on the Forum within seconds of making such pronouncements.

Sure ..they helped a lot . . .by creating this device. . . but God gave them the brains and the history to built on.

Love Johan

 

[Zivan]

The whole thread is full of it.

Part of that sentence is correct.

 

[Thor 2]

Originally Posted by Thor 2
Is there ever going to be and end to this drivel?

God has no beginning and no end.

Apparently not then.

Originally Posted by Thor 2
Seven posts in a row ending in "Love Johan" but non of them addressing questions put.

You missed something.

Huh, where was it?

Originally Posted by Thor 2
Just a load of meaningless preaching.

Then I am a mad man. But . .who can understand God?

Given that God is a mythical being you can make up anything you like and present it as an understanding of him. Being mad would help.

Love Johan

Love and kisses back.

 

[Nay_Sayer]

I am not human . . .God is my Father.

Sure ..they helped a lot . . .by creating this device. . . but God gave them the brains and the history to built on.

Love Johan

Well,

Edited by jsfisher: 

<snip> Edited for compliance with Rule 12 of the Membership Agreement.

 

[Johanabrahams]

I'm very interested. The prospect of living forever is very appealing.

Sure is . . but there is something else about it that needs considering. The quality of that life. If it is going to be a bitter experience or a joyful one.

Are you now trying to present evidence for god? Because this isn't it.

Sure there needs to be an accepting.

Your post is just a long love letter to the sky daddy.

This is something that would create a "joyful" experience in the "afterlife"

If you want to convince me, and you should, given the stakes, you'll have to tell me something I've never heard before, because I heard it all and there's nothing that points to the existence of any god, or the supernatural, so far.

Actually . ..true "convincing" only came with a true meeting.

You really haven't.

You mean "convincing" has not really happened.

Tell you what, start with this: present one thing in our reality that CANNOT be explained physically; that requires supernatural intervention, and you'll have a start.

It needs a "meeting". Which is obviously . . .me. Because if you see the child there should obviously be a father . . and something rarely considered . . . also a mother.

Love Johan

 

[Johanabrahams]

Is this at all like being assimilated into the Borg Collective?
If so, then no, thanks.

Nope it is like family life. Children needs a father and a mother. And then when they are grown the become father or mother themselves.

Love Johan

 

[Johanabrahams]

Actually so, as demonstrated by the next bit...



...where you continue to claim your unsupported beliefs as "knowledge". Without non-anecdotal, objective, empirical evidence, you are acting out the textbook definition of a superstition.

No matter what you believe.

You are missing the evidence. Here I am. A witness of true Love. The only way it can be by being a child of God being god myself. Having been born a second time. This time from Him. Having everything God is. As every child has everything his father is. I do not need evidence for the existence of your father. You are that evidence.

Love Johan

 

[Johanabrahams]

You're a divine ascended superhuman, but you still need to wait tables at a tavern to make ends meet? How... Buddhist.

I am more than a superhuman. God is my Father. In the true sense of the word. What He is . . . is what I am. I do not need to make ends meet. That is why I work for free.

Love Johan

 

[Johanabrahams]

Right, so you read posts. It does not unfortunately make your responses better, or the contention that you have been removed from the human race any wiser. Correcting your misstatements is not correcting my misunderstanding either.

If you have perseverance . . you will get to the bottom of it. The opposite is not really worth looking into. Meaning to be a quitter or not an achiever etc. Having been removed from the human race caused a death in me. I have no life . .that is human life. No family . . no wife no kids no work no money no house no motorcar . . just nothing. But do not feel sympathy for me. I got something better. The Life of God. After my death I was resurrected again in His Life. And that what makes Him God is totally different than that what makes human beings what they are. The substitution was done in Love. Like a baby . . .playing with something. You just give him something better to play with and then he takes that. Or if you have a bicycle to go to work with. Then you can give it up for a motorcar. It has to be something better. So it was with me and whoever is interested.

Love Johan

 

[Johanabrahams]

Does anyone else here feel that the only thing missing from this thread are smiley faces after Johanabraham'a declarations of God's love.

Well . . .you are picking up the Spirit.

Johanabraham- do you know how to post those?

Seems there is no need . . .He is here . . doing it.

However I do I see that more and more a percentage of the posts in this thread are Johanabraham's- good direction!

Mine. . . ? I died. God's.

 

[Johanabrahams]

Fiction. Post rationalised mythology.

With God . . all opinions are quite in order.

Love Johan

 

[Johanabrahams]

It is a collection of books describing inspired but limited understanding of the nature of God as written by very fallible men over the ages. It is also a guide to humanity's gradual civilization and interactions in society, also imperfect in this regard as well, but improving over time. It is also the hard won wisdom of previous generations, imperfect in this regard as well, but also improving over time. It is also a book of poetry and song. There is some historical fact present, but it certainly is no history book.

Bottom line it is a book written and compiled by men and therefore most certainly imperfect. Which is why BTW, certain things change in it over time. As each generation sees flaws in the earlier works and adds their inspired changes. Until the false dogma that it is the perfect word of God came along. Then it stagnated.

What is this perfect Word of God . . .and the stagnation?

Love Johan

 

[Johanabrahams]

Eyes and brains evolved. Eyes have evolved independently over 30 times. Don't you find that thrilling?

I find it more thrilling in God that created them . . .meaning I can do the same.

Love Johan

 

[Johanabrahams]

The Bible is a collection of stories by many authors. Some are a reasonably accurate account of actual events, some are a very distorted and inaccurate account of actual events, and many are pure myth. Some of the stories are directly contradicted by archaeological evidence.

Now what is the purpose of the Bible?

Love Johan

 

[Johanabrahams]

In short, it is the first draft of a handbook for how to live in the universe we find ourselves in. Some people realize it must be imperfect, due to how it was compiled, many do not.

If it is telling us how to live in an imperfect way . . .why read it?

Love Johan

 

[MikeG]

I find it more thrilling in God that created them . . .meaning I can do the same.

Love Johan

What did you god create? Certainly not eyes.

 

[Beady]

Oops


This signature is intended to irritate people.

 

[Rincewind]

This God of love - is he the one who created everything and decided it was perfect?

Amongst his creations, therefore, would be the Tsetse Fly - responsible for the deaths and disabling of millions of people? Also, the deaths of a huge number of cattle too?