Merged A God of Love / The Living God

[Johanabrahams]

Finally, the point.

God has many "points".

Love Johan

 

[Johanabrahams]

Is there ever going to be and end to this drivel?

God has no beginning and no end.

Seven posts in a row ending in "Love Johan" but non of them addressing questions put.

You missed something.

Just a load of meaningless preaching.

Then I am a mad man. But . .who can understand God?

Love Johan

 

[Giordano]

Does anyone else here feel that the only thing missing from this thread are smiley faces after Johanabraham'a declarations of God's love. Johanabraham- do you know how to post those?

However I do I see that more and more a percentage of the posts in this thread are Johanabraham's- good direction!

 

[Johanabrahams]

About 20 unanswered posts, too. When does this count as "flooding"?

When there is no reason. But I said that I am very busy over weekends. I work every day 13 hours. Every day of the week. Sometimes it is not very busy which gives me time to write. So you are into a situation of exercising what you do not have . . . .patience.

You can exercise or rest . . it is up to you.

Love Johan

 

[Johanabrahams]

The Bible is a collection of stories by many authors. Some are a reasonably accurate account of actual events, some are a very distorted and inaccurate account of actual events, and many are pure myth. Some of the stories are directly contradicted by archaeological evidence.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_the_Bible

If it is not a history book . . .what is it then?

 

[MikeG]

Fiction. Post rationalised mythology.

 

[Red Baron Farms]

If it is not a history book . . .what is it then?

It is a collection of books describing inspired but limited understanding of the nature of God as written by very fallible men over the ages. It is also a guide to humanity's gradual civilization and interactions in society, also imperfect in this regard as well, but improving over time. It is also the hard won wisdom of previous generations, imperfect in this regard as well, but also improving over time. It is also a book of poetry and song. There is some historical fact present, but it certainly is no history book.

Bottom line it is a book written and compiled by men and therefore most certainly imperfect. Which is why BTW, certain things change in it over time. As each generation sees flaws in the earlier works and adds their inspired changes. Until the false dogma that it is the perfect word of God came along. Then it stagnated.

 

[Johanabrahams]

Your demonstrated practice denies this.

In your opinion.

Here, you would need to define, and demonstrate, the "mistake" you claim I have made before you could honestly claim to be "correcting" it.

No need to. We all make mistakes. And we should all be part of correcting them. So we should not be so sensitive about them.

Further, you would need to demonstrate the mere existence of this 'god' of yours before you might honestly claim that it died for my mistakes.

That I am doing. Actually that took a great deal of love to die for those that has no interest in Him so that they have the means of forgiveness. Because of a lack of forgiveness human beings live in constant pain.

I eagerly await your doing so.

I am busy . .you just fail to see.

The "obvious remedy" for your lack of understanding of the meaning of the word, "screed" (as with your lack of understanding of the meaning of the word, "superstition") is for you to understand how, and why, the words are being used.

We have different understanding about that. But that does not mean that I do not love you . . .meaning in practice . . that I enjoy being in conversation with you. On the other hand you might because of lack of love not enjoy having conversation with me.

Which . . .as I said. . . .obviously God died for to give me the power of forgiveness . . .which you do not have because of lack of faith in His love.

That is a remedy you, and only you, can undertake.

As I said . . .you need faith and love . . .which is obviously the True remedy.

Love Johan

 

[Johanabrahams]

You continue to make unsupported assertions about the behaviour (and nature) of a 'god', for the existence of which you have offered not the least bit of evidence.

Well now . . .my behavior couldn't just have fallen out of the sky now . . .could it?

When do you intend to offer actual, practical, empirical, objective, non-anecdotal, testable evidence for the mere existence (to say nothing of the puissance) of this 'god' of yours?

What more do you need then His child? . . I mean if you see a lion you should know that it has a "father" and if you see a mouse you should know that it has another "father".

Love Johan

 

[Johanabrahams]

You continue to make assertions about the actions and nature of a 'god' for which you continue to fail to offer the least bit of evidence.

You cannot say it is not there when you are missing it.

When do you intend to rectify this omission?

I am busy . . .with you . . .and then you will see.

Save your "forgiveness", and make with the evidence instead.

Cannot save my evidence as you are asking for it. Just have to rub it in till you feel the result.

Love Johan

 

[Johanabrahams]

This is a false dichotomy.

Big words will not save you the day

Further, one cannot "see" something that has not been demonstrated to exist failing to do something...

But first the ability to "see" has to be created.

Love Johan

 

[MikeG]

.........which you do not have because of lack of faith in His love.......

You keep making this mistake. It isn't his love that people don't have faith in. Its his existence. Until or unless you can provide evidence to the contrary this makey-uppie god of yours doesn't exist, let alone love anyone.

 

[MikeG]

......But first the ability to "see" has to be created.........

Eyes and brains evolved. Eyes have evolved independently over 30 times. Don't you find that thrilling?

 

[Pixel42]

If it is not a history book . . .what is it then?

The Bible is a collection of stories by many authors. Some are a reasonably accurate account of actual events, some are a very distorted and inaccurate account of actual events, and many are pure myth. Some of the stories are directly contradicted by archaeological evidence.

 

[Hokulele]

It is a collection of books describing inspired but limited understanding of the nature of God as written by very fallible men over the ages. It is also a guide to humanity's gradual civilization and interactions in society, also imperfect in this regard as well, but improving over time. It is also the hard won wisdom of previous generations, imperfect in this regard as well, but also improving over time. It is also a book of poetry and song. There is some historical fact present, but it certainly is no history book.

Bottom line it is a book written and compiled by men and therefore most certainly imperfect. Which is why BTW, certain things change in it over time. As each generation sees flaws in the earlier works and adds their inspired changes. Until the false dogma that it is the perfect word of God came along. Then it stagnated.

In short, it is the first draft of a handbook for how to live in the universe we find ourselves in. Some people realize it must be imperfect, due to how it was compiled, many do not.

 

[Johanabrahams]

1. There is no independent evidence of the "exodus" story--history does not record that Egypt was ever raped and plundered as the "bible" claims.

2. There is no evidence at all for the "flood" story, a tale about a cataclysm that would, had it have happened, inevitable have left a flood of evidences.

3. There is no independent historical record of the "conquest" of Canaan.

4. There is no independent historical record of the events of the "nativity" (including, for instance, the "Slaughter of the Innocents".

...and so forth. The "bible" cannot, in any way, be said to be an historically accurate record.

Yep . . .I agree . . .it is not a historical message.

Love Johan

 

[Johanabrahams]

You have failed even to address, much less answer, the question. How can such a dishonest evasion be considered an act of "love"?

Actually . . .you didn't see my answer. I first need to open your eyes. Will need some time . . .just be patient. And with this I will also help you as I know you also do not have it.

I am helper.

Love Johan

 

[Johanabrahams]

They weren't wrong? The Egyptians believed in multiple gods, one of which created a whole race of men with his semen. What does it take for you to call them wrong?

Sure they were very ignorant about God.

Twaddle.

Elaborate a bit more.

Love Johan

 

[Johanabrahams]

So you claim, but I'm yet to see anything beyond a claim.

The whole thread is full of it.

But the point is that humans CAN do this by your own admission.

Nope they try but fail.

ADVICE: Please stop flooding the thread with dozens of small posts answering everybody you lay your eyes on.

Have to answer everybody. They are expecting it of me.

It disrupts the flow of the thread. Group your replies together and try not to repeat yourself.

Yep this I can try.

God didn't die. Even in the story he doesn't actually die. He's immortal. He just make-believe died to convince himself to change his own rules. Does that make sense to you?

Yep He is immortal . . .and so are you . . .yet everybody is speaking about dying. . .

And also . . . .Adam and Eve died.. . . and I died too.

Love Johan

 

[Beady]

and I died too.

Love Johan

That must have sucked.



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