His own generals said he was not the Gröfaz, i.e. Größter Feldherr aller Zeiten, but the Grövaz, i.e. Größter Verbrecher aller Zeiten...
Why Didn't The Allies Back Hitler.
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His own generals said he was not the Gröfaz, i.e. Größter Feldherr aller Zeiten, but the Grövaz, i.e. Größter Verbrecher aller Zeiten...
dudalb
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From his first few posts, I had him pegged as a strong "Suicide By Mod" candidate.
dudalb
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I am familiar with "The Greatest General Of All Time" (usually meant sarcastically_ but not with Gorvaz. Please Transalate.
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Why has the breach of the neutrality of Luxembourg never been mentioned? The UK had guaranteed that too in the Second Treaty of London.
Possibly because, as wiki reminds us
The immediate effect of the treaty, established in Article I, was the reaffirmation of the personal union between the Netherlands and Luxembourg under the House of Orange-Nassau. It lasted until 1890, when a woman (Queen Wilhelmina) ascended to the Dutch throne. As at that time the Salic law was still in effect in Luxembourg, she could not become Grand Duchess of Luxembourg.
In any case the independence of Luxembourg was restored along with that of Belgium following the defeat of Germany.That's debatable. If reports of his view of the Munich agreement, that he had been robbed of his war, are correct then he was looking for a fight. Other details from the run up to September 1939 show that he wanted the war, so he could defeat the West before turning on the Soviets.
it has been argued that Hitler didn't intend a war with the UK, and was indignant at Ribbentrop when the UK declared war. This is stated in many accounts; here from wiki.
When on the morning of 3 September 1939 Chamberlain followed through with his threat of a British declaration of war if Germany attacked Poland, a visibly shocked Hitler asked Ribbentrop "Now what?", a question to which Ribbentrop had no answer except to state that there would be a "similar message" forthcoming from the French Ambassador Robert Coulondre, who arrived later that afternoon to present the French declaration of war. Weizsäcker later recalled that "On 3 Sept., when the British and French declared war, Hitler was surprised, after all, and was to begin with, at a loss".
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That doesn't compute.
Despite the personal union, Luxembourg was a separate country, from the First Treaty of London (1839) on - the treaty that established the independence and neutrality of Belgium. And with the Second Treaty of London, the Great Powers, including the UK, (re)affirmed and guaranteed the neutrality of Luxembourg. Germany's invasion of Luxembourg - one day prior to the invasion of Belgium - was a violation of that treaty and a legitimate casus belli for the UK.
I mean that the attention paid to Luxembourg was secondary to that attracted by Belgium, which suffered the same violation before the UK had had time to react to the Luxembourg aggression.
Moreover, the end of the personal union with the Netherlands reduced Luxembourg's standing, I suppose, with the makers of UK foreign policy. If the monarch of the Netherlands had been personally affected by the violation of Luxembourg, the importance of that event would have been enhanced in the eyes of the UK.
Contrary to what happened for Luxembourg which was invaded without declaration of war, the invasion of Belgium was preceded by a German ultimatum on 2 August at 7 p.m. requesting Belgium to let the Germany army cross the borders in order to attack France and giving Belgium 12 hours to provide an answer.
On 3 August Belgium refuses the ultimatum and informs the German government it will not allow the German army to cross the border. The same day Germany declares war to Belgium and the invasion begins the day after.
It is likely that the UK and French ambassadors in Belgium have been kept informed of what was going on and have reported to their governments accordingly.
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You know what, the more I read about this Hitler fellow, the more I'm starting to think he wasn't a good guy.
You know what, the more I read about this Chaplin fellow, the more I'm starting to think he wasn't a Jew, not that it would matter if he was.
We may be certain of that. The violation of Belgian neutrality was fatal for the German war plans. It was the occasion of the British entry into the war, which closed the seas to German merchant ships. More immediately, Belgian forces resisted long enough to permit the destruction of many railway lines, delaying the German offensive against France, and giving the French time to hold Paris and stop the German army on the Marne. After that the war became a war of attrition, which in the long run Germany could not possibly win against the resources available to the British and French Empires.
So Belgium was most important, but Luxembourg was less so, and has not received as much attention.
dudalb
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An Anglican Jew. That's the worst kind
Disraeli shows that.....
dudalb
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Apprently the story that his good friend Douglas Fairbanks Sr told Chaplin in the early thirties that "Hitler is stealing your act" is true.
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Alas, our truthie friend did not last long enough to answer the question of why he felt it necessary to insist that Chaplin was Jewish. What a sad little world it is in which one must first shoehorn someone into a despised category before you can simply despise him. An honest person of no discernment could simply say he didn't like Chaplin's attitude, but the snotgobbling idiot had to double down and compound his lack of taste with a lack of integrity. Not that I bear anyone ill will or anything, but I sort of hope Mr. truthietruth is reading this and wetting his pants in impotent fury.
Lots of confusing points on here, primarily from Truthist to be fair:
In 39 Poland was invaded by Nazi Germany AND the Soviet Union, we declared war on Germany only. Partly because we were still smarting from the costs of supporting the Whites plus a realisation that we couldn't do anything about them.
In 41 Hitler royally screwed up because he had failed to conquer airfield Britain, he stupidly attacked the Soviets, bleeding his industrial base, and then the US waded in against him which effectively sealed the Nazi future.
If he kept Britain out of the war, then tackling the Soviets would probably have been acceptable to Britain and the US. Neither country was favourable towards the Soviets until Barbarossa, which happened after the Nazi's had given the UK a right royal kicking in the Blitz and got their backsides kicked in the Battle of Britain. They then really messed up by associating themselves with the Japanese who slapped the US by declaring war on the US. The support of the UK within the US had been ticking along prior to that, but it was seriously ramped up after Pearl Harbour.
If they had managed to dodge any one of these the Nazis might have succeeded. By screwing up all three, their fate was sealed.
In 39 Poland was invaded by Nazi Germany AND the Soviet Union, we declared war on Germany only. Partly because we were still smarting from the costs of supporting the Whites plus a realisation that we couldn't do anything about them.
In 41 Hitler royally screwed up because he had failed to conquer airfield Britain, he stupidly attacked the Soviets, bleeding his industrial base, and then the US waded in against him which effectively sealed the Nazi future.
If he kept Britain out of the war, then tackling the Soviets would probably have been acceptable to Britain and the US. Neither country was favourable towards the Soviets until Barbarossa, which happened after the Nazi's had given the UK a right royal kicking in the Blitz and got their backsides kicked in the Battle of Britain. They then really messed up by associating themselves with the Japanese who slapped the US by declaring war on the US. The support of the UK within the US had been ticking along prior to that, but it was seriously ramped up after Pearl Harbour.
If they had managed to dodge any one of these the Nazis might have succeeded. By screwing up all three, their fate was sealed.