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[MinnesotaBrant]

I should look up to see if a cps is a mental health practioner. There are a lot of things people try. I really don't see the need stigmatise someone's belief system. I am not really see the harm in it other than there are probably more productive than things he could be doing with his time than telepathy

 

[John Jones]

I should look up to see if a cps is a mental health practioner. There are a lot of things people try. I really don't see the need stigmatise someone's belief system. I am not really see the harm in it other than there are probably more productive than things he could be doing with his time than telepathy

That's kind of the whole point when dealing with schizophrenics, isn't it?

My mother was schizophrenic, and she spent so many years weaving conspiracy theories into her life. First it was communists, then lesbians, and then drug dealers, then the KKK, and then the cops who were conspiring against her.

She actually wrote a letter to the Chief of Police in Birmingham AL, threatening to kill him if he didn't stop sending Public Utility trucks, pizza delivery drivers, and plumbing service trucks to follow her every move and to spy on her.

We moved her out of that city before they busted her.

There is a rest of the story if anyone is interested.

 

[Nay_Sayer]

I'll bet a couple of nickles the story will get more and more amazing and impossible with each subsequent telling.

 

[The Norseman]

But if you read my reasons for believing she used telepathy you will see in the course of talking about what I was doing she told me at least five facts about the equipment I did not know. Upon those facts my sanity depended. I was able to be sure she was doing it because of them.

Well, there it is. There is literally nothing that anyone can say or do or demonstrate or suggest that would show to you that you're wrong. You have too much invested into the delusion at this point.

 

[Scorpion]

Well, there it is. There is literally nothing that anyone can say or do or demonstrate or suggest that would show to you that you're wrong. You have too much invested into the delusion at this point.

That was then, this is now. I recuperated and recovered from the utter nervous exhaustion that my experience caused me. It was over twenty years ago. Since then I have not experienced any more people reading my thoughts.
It was only that one office girl that seemed to have that ability.

I maintain that my conclusion it actually happened is based on logic and that she told me five facts I did not know. If I believed it was just hallucinations I could forget about it. But I am sure it was the truth.

 

[trustbutverify]

I'll bet a couple of nickles the story will get more and more amazing and impossible with each subsequent telling.

Sorry, I need my nickles.

 

[Thermal]

I believe I said in the letter that my employers were guilty of abusing a mentally ill person, conspiracy and negligence. Employers have a duty of care.

Ok, you are claiming to be mentally ill at the time. You also claim that the employer was harboring psychic employees who tormented you. Do you see how readers might have an 'aha!' moment, based on your recounting?

Also, I am a little confused. You say the psychic woman told you facts that you did not know. Seems like she just knew stuff you were not thinking, which is kind of the opposite of receiving thoughts you were broadcasting.

He never spoke to me, the first thing I knew about it was a call from the police requesting I attend the police station.

Pretty sure he was within his rights, as it doesn't sound like you were following legal requirements for a pro se investigation. Were you following the requirements of your State?

As far as I am concerned all this began at the interview for the job, when I heard the girls in the office talking about me. One of the workers said to the manager. "He seems alright" and the manager said. "he probably would at the interview" Then I started work and everyone seemed to be talking about me deliberately from day one.

As you claim to be mentally ill at the time, is it surprising that others might have noticed unusual behaviors soon after being hired? You have volunteered that you were sort of hiding behind a door to eavesdrop on two women. This kind of thing does draw attention from coworkers, after all.

 

[Scorpion]

Ok, you are claiming to be mentally ill at the time. You also claim that the employer was harboring psychic employees who tormented you. Do you see how readers might have an 'aha!' moment, based on your recounting?

Also, I am a little confused. You say the psychic woman told you facts that you did not know. Seems like she just knew stuff you were not thinking, which is kind of the opposite of receiving thoughts you were broadcasting.


As you claim to be mentally ill at the time, is it surprising that others might have noticed unusual behaviors soon after being hired? You have volunteered that you were sort of hiding behind a door to eavesdrop on two women. This kind of thing does draw attention from coworkers, after all.

I never told my employers I had schizophrenia, but after over a year of working for them I was getting so nervously exhausted I went sick for two weeks. I had my doctor state schizophrenia on the medical certificates, and when I returned I expected the manager to talk to me about if I was well enough to do the job. But it was as if I had never been away. Nobody ever mentioned it. No fellow worker asked me how I was, and no member of the management ever mentioned it. How likely is that if they did not already know?

As far as I am concerned the police colluded with my ex employer from before I went to the interview. They had the staff talk about me deliberately to drive me to a breakdown so I would get put in a mental hospital. My dumb assed employer proceeded to try and break my mind while I struggled to solve electronic problems. What possessed them to undertake this I do not know and I tried to do the job while being tormented with psychological abuse.
But after some months I first experienced that they knew what I was thinking as they said something about what was going on in my mind.

The girl knew what I was thinking and at one point I tried to pray for strength and I heard the office staff commenting on it.

I have said I know I was hallucinating some of the time, but if you read back the accounts of the girl talking about the equipment I was working on you will see that on occasions she told me five facts I did not know about the work I was doing. I heard her talking about what I was working on and her voice came through the open office door. She could not see me unless she had closed circuit TV and I looked around for that and found nothing.

 

[Thermal]

I never told my employers I had schizophrenia, but after over a year of working for them I was getting so nervously exhausted I went sick for two weeks. I had my doctor state schizophrenia on the medical certificates, and when I returned I expected the manager to talk to me about if I was well enough to do the job. But it was as if I had never been away. Nobody ever mentioned it. No fellow worker asked me how I was, and no member of the management ever mentioned it. How likely is that if they did not already know?

Consider the hilited from a rational point of view. I am confident that everyone could tell. I am also confident that your recollections of this time should not be considered reliable.

As far as I am concerned the police colluded with my ex employer from before I went to the interview. They had the staff talk about me deliberately to drive me to a breakdown so I would get put in a mental hospital. My dumb assed employer proceeded to try and break my mind while I struggled to solve electronic problems. What possessed them to undertake this I do not know and I tried to do the job while being tormented with psychological abuse.But after some months I first experienced that they knew what I was thinking as they said something about what was going on in my mind.

The girl knew what I was thinking and at one point I tried to pray for strength and I heard the office staff commenting on it.

These are all signs of mental illness, which you acknowledge you were suffering from, rather than evidence of conspiracy and psychic sadists.

I have said I know I was hallucinating some of the time, but if you read back the accounts of the girl talking about the equipment I was working on you will see that on occasions she told me five facts I did not know about the work I was doing. I heard her talking about what I was working on and her voice came through the open office door. She could not see me unless she had closed circuit TV and I looked around for that and found nothing.

You have said this frequently. It does not demonstrate anything about psychic powers. It just shows that she knew five things that you did not, which has nothing to do with mind-reading (you say it was not even in your mind, so she couldn't read it, right?)

Don't you think it is plausible in hindsight that during the time you suffered from mental illness, you may not be recalling events accurately?

 

[Scorpion]

These are all signs of mental illness, which you acknowledge you were suffering from, rather than evidence of conspiracy and psychic sadists.

I realize that nobody on this forum is going to believe in telepathy, but I maintain it exists and reason has told me that it does.

You have said this frequently. It does not demonstrate anything about psychic powers. It just shows that she knew five things that you did not, which has nothing to do with mind-reading (you say it was not even in your mind, so she couldn't read it, right?)

NO, I said she said, "HE THINKS he can fix that machine easily but he can't because the part is out of stock" and "HE THINKS that's a pressure switch"
Besides there were a thousand other times I heard her talking about what I was thinking but there is no logical way of knowing if I was hallucinating then or not because she did not tell me any facts.

Don't you think it is plausible in hindsight that during the time you suffered from mental illness, you may not be recalling events accurately?

Nope, my mind is logical. I am trained in microprocessors and logic gates.
But I found that was not enough to stop them driving me nuts so I read about personality profilers and forensic and behaviourist psychologists.
My conclusion is they are a bunch of manipulating bastards who studied psychology to use it for their own ends. The are not psychiatrists they did not take the Hippocratic oath and I fell foul of one who advised the police on a strategy to put me in hospital against my wishes.

 

[Elagabalus]

...Nope, my mind is logical. I am trained in microprocessors and logic gates...

That maybe so, but this

...As far as I am concerned the police colluded with my ex employer from before I went to the interview. They had the staff talk about me deliberately to drive me to a breakdown so I would get put in a mental hospital. My dumb assed employer proceeded to try and break my mind while I struggled to solve electronic problems. What possessed them to undertake this I do not know and I tried to do the job while being tormented with psychological abuse...

does not make any logical sense.


How could the police collude with your employer before you had an interview? And why would they care?

 

[Porpoise of Life]

So, it's impossible that your mental illness affected these experiences and memories, but quite likely that whole branches of the mental health profession are conspiring with law enforcement and your former employers to drive you nuts, and they're using magic to do it?

I'm sorry, but that sounds neither logical nor likely to me.

 

[Scorpion]

That maybe so, but this
does not make any logical sense.
How could the police collude with your employer before you had an interview? And why would they care?

Because I drew myself to the attention of the police six months before while I was at a previous job from which I was later made redundant. The police were on my case because of an incident where I threatened a man who stopped his daughter from going out with me. I had a blank firing gun and used to loose off the occasional blank, and my landlady warned me a policeman had come and asked her if I had a gun. It was a small town and my behaviour attracted the police attention before I got my last job. They had already told the neighbours to talk about me deliberately before I went to work for my last employer. The strategy of talking about schizophrenics to give them a breakdown went into motion like a well oiled machine and I was not expected to fight against it as long as I did. I believe the police in general have adopted this strategy on others before they got to me but with more success So then they raised the stakes by getting my last employer to give me a job doubtlessly knowing there was a psychic working there.

 

[Scorpion]

So, it's impossible that your mental illness affected these experiences and memories, but quite likely that whole branches of the mental health profession are conspiring with law enforcement and your former employers to drive you nuts, and they're using magic to do it?

I'm sorry, but that sounds neither logical nor likely to me.

No, the medical profession know nothing about it. I had to see a psychiatrist in order to claim sick benefits when I finally walked out of my last job and I told him all this but he did not believe a word of it. Nobody from the police would ever tell my own doctor because they would admit liability.
The person that did this to me was almost certainly a consultant psychologist not a doctor. And that bastard owes me my life back and years of lost earnings. But I have no proof and my ex employers would not admit it so there is no more I can do.

 

[Elagabalus]

Because I drew myself to the attention of the police six months before while I was at a previous job from which I was later made redundant. The police were on my case because of an incident where I threatened a man who stopped his daughter from going out with me. I had a blank firing gun and used to loose off the occasional blank, and my landlady warned me a policeman had come and asked her if I had a gun. It was a small town and my behaviour attracted the police attention before I got my last job. They had already told the neighbours to talk about me deliberately before I went to work for my last employer. The strategy of talking about schizophrenics to give them a breakdown went into motion like a well oiled machine and I was not expected to fight against it as long as I did. I believe the police in general have adopted this strategy on others before they got to me but with more success So then they raised the stakes by getting my last employer to give me a job doubtlessly knowing there was a psychic working there.

By your own admission you are a "diagnosed a paranoid Schizophrenic".

Paranoid Schizophrenics suffer from the following:

Paranoid schizophrenia is a subtype of schizophrenia in which the patient has delusions (false beliefs) that a person or some individuals are plotting against them or members of their family. Paranoid schizophrenia is the most common schizophrenia type.

The majority of people with paranoid schizophrenia, as with most schizophrenia subtypes may also have auditory hallucinations - they hear things that are not real...

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/192621.php

http://www.webmd.com/schizophrenia/guide/schizophrenia-paranoia#1

Given that you have a predisposition for delusions that people are plotting against you and that you also may be suffering from auditory hallucinations as well, how likely is it that your employer/police etc. were trying to get you vs. something that your mind manufactured because you suffer from paranoid schizophrenia?

 

[Scorpion]

By your own admission you are a "diagnosed a paranoid Schizophrenic".

Paranoid Schizophrenics suffer from the following:

Given that you have a predisposition for delusions that people are plotting against you and that you also may be suffering from auditory hallucinations as well, how likely is it that your employer/police etc. were trying to get you vs. something that your mind manufactured because you suffer from paranoid schizophrenia?

I know all about paranoid schizophrenia, and its earlier form which was simple schizophrenia that I was diagnosed with in 1969. This is one reason why it was so hard for me to determine if I was hallucinating or not, knowing that a symptom of schizophrenia is you think you are broadcasting your thoughts.
But I maintain the facts the girl told me were accurate and I did not know them before she told me. So it is clear to me that on those occasions I was not hallucinating. She was receiving my thoughts and telling the office staff what I was thinking.

I survived the earlier form of schizophrenia in the 1960's in which I heard voices in my ears by analyzing what they said to see if it made sense or if they told me facts I did not know. When I realized they only talk rubbish I stopped listening to them. They then became of no consequence to me and were just background noise. I would have reached the same conclusion about paranoid voices of people talking about me if they had been illogical. But I repeat I was told facts that convince me some of the time people were deliberately talking about me to drive me to a breakdown.

 

[MinnesotaBrant]

Pm me, I am a real mental health professional and have seen all kinds of treatments work. here let me read this and tell you what I think.

At first I checked to see if this was all new to you, and no, my gods!, you have been struggling with this since 1969. Think of it this way, if you were any kind of telepath you would have figured it out by now, so its best to put it behind you. I know living alone this things can stick, but for me most of my past is like some kind of grey fuzz, I can bring it up with a reasonable degree of accuracy but I don't spend much time pondering it. What I usually tell people is to concentrate on what their goals are, your goal could be education. Education can work wonders for your telepathy since you will be smarter, have more dendritic connections, and probably have a more efficient brain than your non schizophrenic counterpart. Schizophrenics lose more grey matter, but grey matter is overrated anyway. It's like always being able to win at Trivial Pursuit, but you can't work because your back is bad. Obviously, by the stigmatizing comments made by the posters here, you can see that is possible, and even likely, for you to get better. I know you think its late to try, but really it isn't. Give something a try and let me know how it goes.

 

[John Jones]

I'll bet a couple of nickles the story will get more and more amazing and impossible with each subsequent telling.

I can't see how it could.

 

[John Jones]

Because I drew myself to the attention of the police six months before while I was at a previous job from which I was later made redundant. The police were on my case because of an incident where I threatened a man who stopped his daughter from going out with me. I had a blank firing gun and used to loose off the occasional blank, and my landlady warned me a policeman had come and asked her if I had a gun. It was a small town and my behaviour attracted the police attention before I got my last job. They had already told the neighbours to talk about me deliberately before I went to work for my last employer. The strategy of talking about schizophrenics to give them a breakdown went into motion like a well oiled machine and I was not expected to fight against it as long as I did. I believe the police in general have adopted this strategy on others before they got to me but with more success So then they raised the stakes by getting my last employer to give me a job doubtlessly knowing there was a psychic working there.

This is hopelessly nutty reasoning. Please seek help. You don't have to live this way.

 

[abaddon]

Because I drew myself to the attention of the police six months before while I was at a previous job from which I was later made redundant. The police were on my case because of an incident where I threatened a man who stopped his daughter from going out with me. I had a blank firing gun and used to loose off the occasional blank, and my landlady warned me a policeman had come and asked her if I had a gun. It was a small town and my behaviour attracted the police attention before I got my last job. They had already told the neighbours to talk about me deliberately before I went to work for my last employer. The strategy of talking about schizophrenics to give them a breakdown went into motion like a well oiled machine and I was not expected to fight against it as long as I did. I believe the police in general have adopted this strategy on others before they got to me but with more success So then they raised the stakes by getting my last employer to give me a job doubtlessly knowing there was a psychic working there.

Except that there is no such strategy, policy or even any such thing as a psychic.

Does not the fact that you are frankly discussing things which do not exist as though they were real give you any pause for thought?