Hillary Clinton is Done: part 4

[Jrrarglblarg]

The clinton supporters blaming everyone but hillary and her supporters.

As expected.

Looking at the underlying social phenomena driving the actual vote turnout is not "blaming," so if you catch me "blaming" anyone please let me know I've been sloppy.

Hillary was the worst candidate the DNC coulda run, not because of her qualities and flaws but for the gigantic glow in the dark target on her back.

The DNC was sloppy and complacent. The RNC was also sloppy and complacent, and their slate candidates, a plate of stale toast topped with canned jalapeños, was not attractive to primary voters who wanted crunchy exciting nachos.

Trump was elected by low-frequency voters, and Hillary lost because medium frequency voters stayed home.

 

[Fast Eddie B]

Where's that happening?

I've been seeing it everywhere. Forums, FaceBook, Twitter, TV.

Blame it on the horribleness of Trump supporters.

Blame it on sexism.

Blame it on the Electoral College.

Blame it on third party candidates.

Blame it on a vast right wing conspiracy.

Blame it on voter suppression.

Hillary, to her credit, did none of that in her concession speech. But her supporters, much to their discredit, can't see where the blame really lies.

 

[NoahFence]

I've been seeing it everywhere. Forums, FaceBook, Twitter, TV.

Blame it on the horribleness of Trump supporters.

Blame it on sexism.

Blame it on the Electoral College.

Blame it on third party candidates.

Blame it on a vast right wing conspiracy.

Blame it on voter suppression.

Hillary, to her credit, did none of that in her concession speech. But her supporters, much to their discredit, can't see where the blame really lies.

LOL @ "Blame"

What if - and i know this is odd - I'm not "blaming" anyone?

Donald Trump won fair and square - elected because there are more idiots in this country that was previously thought.

 

[Jrrarglblarg]

I've been seeing it everywhere. Forums, FaceBook, Twitter, TV.

Blame it on the horribleness of Trump supporters.

Blame it on sexism.

Blame it on the Electoral College.

Blame it on third party candidates.
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Blame it on a vast right wing conspiracy.

Blame it on voter suppression.

Hillary, to her credit, did none of that in her concession speech. But her supporters, much to their discredit, can't see where the blame really lies.

The blame lies in aging demographics struggling to comprehend a "made in China" world where their children no longer go to work for GM and retire in 20 with a gold watch. The blame lies in the youngest voters being handed the world on a platter and not having sufficient life experience to appreciate the amount of work required to build and maintain it. The blame lies in the middle of various bell curves representing large swaths of disinterested or disgusted potential voters who didn't bother.

I blame Nixon. And Ford. And Carter, and everyone after them at all levels of government. I blame standardized testing stealing precious classroom time. I blame the ubiquity of smartphones, presenting an endless river of short-attention-span ad carrying content. I blame Fox for blurring the lines between fact reportage and opinioneering, by presenting both under the banner of "journalism." I blame journalists for not holding Trump's feet to the fire. I blame every voter willing to accept "grab them by the pussy" is "just" locker room talk because the Other Guy didn't say it.

 

[Jrrarglblarg]

LOL @ "Blame"

What if - and i know this is odd - I'm not "blaming" anyone?

Donald Trump won fair and square - elected because there are more idiots in this country that was previously thought.

This. The Meshback demographic is yuuge and confused by a rapidly changing reality.

 

[Belz...]

The blame lies in aging demographics struggling to comprehend a "made in China" world where their children no longer go to work for GM and retire in 20 with a gold watch. The blame lies in the youngest voters being handed the world on a platter and not having sufficient life experience to appreciate the amount of work required to build and maintain it. The blame lies in the middle of various bell curves representing large swaths of disinterested or disgusted potential voters who didn't bother.

I blame Nixon. And Ford. And Carter, and everyone after them at all levels of government. I blame standardized testing stealing precious classroom time. I blame the ubiquity of smartphones, presenting an endless river of short-attention-span ad carrying content. I blame Fox for blurring the lines between fact reportage and opinioneering, by presenting both under the banner of "journalism." I blame journalists for not holding Trump's feet to the fire. I blame every voter willing to accept "grab them by the pussy" is "just" locker room talk because the Other Guy didn't say it.

Now, where's that "like" button?

 

[The Big Dog]

Where's that happening?

LOL @ "Blame"

What if - and i know this is odd - I'm not "blaming" anyone?

Donald Trump won fair and square - elected because there are more idiots in this country that was previously thought.

The blame lies in aging demographics struggling to comprehend a "made in China" world where their children no longer go to work for GM and retire in 20 with a gold watch. The blame lies in the youngest voters being handed the world on a platter and not having sufficient life experience to appreciate the amount of work required to build and maintain it. The blame lies in the middle of various bell curves representing large swaths of disinterested or disgusted potential voters who didn't bother.

I blame Nixon. And Ford. And Carter, and everyone after them at all levels of government. I blame standardized testing stealing precious classroom time. I blame the ubiquity of smartphones, presenting an endless river of short-attention-span ad carrying content. I blame Fox for blurring the lines between fact reportage and opinioneering, by presenting both under the banner of "journalism." I blame journalists for not holding Trump's feet to the fire. I blame every voter willing to accept "grab them by the pussy" is "just" locker room talk because the Other Guy didn't say it.

Cripes, the election should have been a wake up call for Hillary and her supporters, instead it is an exercise in wallowing in self pity.

Bad candidate ran a bad campaign end of story.

 

[Belz...]

Cripes, the election should have been a wake up call for Hillary and her supporters, instead it is an exercise in wallowing in self pity.

Bad candidate ran a bad campaign end of story.

I see you ignored my question about bad candidate Trump's bad campaign.

 

[The Big Dog]

I see you ignored my question about bad candidate Trump's bad campaign.

Post some evidence to support it and I will consider your silly derail,

The fact is that she was an overwhelming favorite and lost, she blew off Wisconsin and her campaign was mired in controversy.

She could not get the black vote out, and she lost.

Quite frankly claiming Trump ran a bad campaign after he won is pissing into the wind, isn't it?

If Trump was a bad candidate who ran a bad campaign, what does that make Hillary?

 

[Fast Eddie B]

LOL @ "Blame"

What if - and i know this is odd - I'm not "blaming" anyone?

Donald Trump won fair and square - elected because there are more idiots in this country that was previously thought.

If that's not blaming the idiots, I don't know what would be!

 

[Jrrarglblarg]

I see you ignored my question about bad candidate Trump's bad campaign.

I wonder why? Could it be that Winning is more important than truth?

Naw, couldn't be.

 

[Jrrarglblarg]

Post some evidence to support it and I will consider your silly derail,

The fact is that she was an overwhelming favorite and lost, she blew off Wisconsin and her campaign was mired in controversy.

She could not get the black vote out, and she lost.

Quite frankly claiming Trump ran a bad campaign after he won is pissing into the wind, isn't it?

If Trump was a bad candidate who ran a bad campaign, what does that make Hillary?

Hillary ran a dishwater campaign. Nothing radical, nothing unexpected, maintain message control to try to minimize media shark-frenzy blood in the water. She ran on policy and position, Donald ran on personality.

The weak campaign was that she didn't go on the attack over every single weird, wrong, creepy or stupid thing Trump said. She ran on a political campaign, Donald was running on a reality-tv popularity contest.

 

[Belz...]

Post some evidence to support it and I will consider your silly derail,

Oh, should I provide as much evidence as you did for Hillary's campaign? Yes? Ok, consider that done, now.

Trump was a terrible candidate and had a terrible campaign, and yet he won. How do you square that with your claim that the reason for her loss is that she's a bad candidate with a bad campaign?

 

[NoahFence]

If that's not blaming the idiots, I don't know what would be!

Something happened.

Something caused it.

If you want to assign the word "blame" to this, by all means do so. I'm not blaming anybody for anything. I'm simply stating what happened.

 

[Belz...]

And if you are blaming someone for this, why not? I mean, people made the decision to elect this piece of garbage, so what's wrong about putting the blame where it belongs?

 

[The Big Dog]

The party establishment made a grievous mistake rallying around Hillary Clinton. It wasn’t just a lack of recent political seasoning. She was a bad candidate, with no message beyond heckling the opposite sideline. She was a total misfit for both the politics of 2016 and the energy of the Democratic Party as currently constituted. She could not escape her baggage, and she must own that failure herself.

Oh, should I provide as much evidence as you did for Hillary's campaign? Yes? Ok, consider that done, now.

False.

Hillary lost to a terrible candidate who ran a terrible campaign isn't exactly helping your argument.

 

[trustbutverify]

Hillary ran a dishwater campaign. Nothing radical, nothing unexpected, maintain message control to try to minimize media shark-frenzy blood in the water. She ran on policy and position, Donald ran on personality.

The weak campaign was that she didn't go on the attack over every single weird, wrong, creepy or stupid thing Trump said. She ran on a political campaign, Donald was running on a reality-tv popularity contest.

Trump told a very large segment of the US population exactly what they wanted to hear, in exactly the way they wanted to hear it.

In addition, he benefitted greatly from a highly coordinated attack on Clinton's campaign from her enemies in Russia and Wikileaks.

 

[Belz...]

False.

Hillary lost to a terrible candidate who ran a terrible campaign isn't exactly helping your argument.

Of course it does, since you claimed that her having a bad campaign is the reason she lost. Pointing out that Trump had a worse campaign defeats that argument. Same for the argument that she was a bad candidate.

 

[The Big Dog]

Of course it does, since you claimed that her having a bad campaign is the reason she lost. Pointing out that Trump had a worse campaign defeats that argument. Same for the argument that she was a bad candidate.

False dichotomy, further you did not "point out" anything you made it up.

Oh well, here I am using critical thinking and that ship sailed on the Shillaries a long time ago.

 

[The Big Dog]

Look at the county by county breakdown of your state. I've not yet found even one red county with a university or community college. Theyre all blue, surrounded by red, in every state I've looked at so far.

you did not look very hard did you?