Hillary Clinton is Done: part 4

[The Big Dog]

False dichotomy. See, now that's how you point out that fallacy.
Before long, you might regret electing a lunatic just to spite her.

Great Campaign AND Great Candidate!

Say, what are we going to call Bill Clinton? First Man?

I know because I read it from skeptics on iSkep!

 

[Belz...]

Great Campaign AND Great Candidate!

No, same false dichotomy. The complement of "bad" is not "great".

 

[logger]

He tapped into horrible people.

The country as a whole underestimated how many horrible people live here.

Lol

The new narrative.

Does you thinking this really help you get by, that's sad if does, only because you've lost so incredibly bad. Your ideas won't see the light of day again in your lifetime.

 

[logger]

Look at the county by county breakdown of your state. I've not yet found even one red county with a university or community college. Theyre all blue, surrounded by red, in every state I've looked at so far.

The new narrative.


Your ideas have been rejected!

 

[The Big Dog]

No, same false dichotomy. The complement of "bad" is not "great".

**** you don't even know what a false dichotomy fallacy is.

 

[logger]

LOL @ "Blame"

What if - and i know this is odd - I'm not "blaming" anyone?

Donald Trump won fair and square - elected because there are more idiots in this country that was previously thought.

The new narrative.

Your ideas have simply failed you've been routed, your ideas won't be back for a very long time!

 

[The Big Dog]

The new narrative.

Your ideas have simply failed you've been routed, your ideas won't be back for a very long time!

I am blown away by the fact that the Shillaries seem unable to realize that they should be looking for what went wrong and desperately trying to fix it, but instead they appear to want to just call people "stupid"

 

[logger]

I wonder why? Could it be that Winning is more important than truth?

Naw, couldn't be.

Remember folks when leftists accuse, its usually them guilty of it!

Not calling you a leftist Jrrarglblarg.

 

[logger]

Trump was a terrible candidate and had a terrible campaign, and yet he won. How do you square that with your claim that the reason for her loss is that she's a bad candidate with a bad campaign?

Lol

That is the most hilarious thing I've seen all day!

You really need him to explain don't you?

 

[phiwum]

There's no comparison. Trump has exactly zero redeeming qualities. But it doesn't surprise me folk who adore Putin are also creaming over their new hero. I'd be surprised if they weren't.

My family voted Trump. They don't adore Putin but have bought the nonsense that Clinton is a cartoon villain. They honestly think that Trump is better than Clinton because Clinton is a crook who will do whatever benefits her rather than the nation.

I agree that one of the candidates cares more about himself than the welfare of the nation, of course. Worse, he is a man without any basic understanding, or any patience to learn, a man convinced that his half-thought proclamations are worth more than the military, foreign policy, environmental, etc. experts. Obviously, I don't approve of their choice in the least and find it difficult to understand how they could be hornswaggled by this egotistical charlatan.

But love of Putin didn't enter the consideration.

 

[Belz...]

**** you don't even know what a false dichotomy fallacy is.

Yeah, I really do. You think that the other side of "bad" is "great". You have a pathetic understanding of logic and reason.

 

[logger]

My family voted Trump. They don't adore Putin but have bought the nonsense that Clinton is a cartoon villain. They honestly think that Trump is better than Clinton because Clinton is a crook who will do whatever benefits her rather than the nation.

I agree that one of the candidates cares more about himself than the welfare of the nation, of course. Worse, he is a man without any basic understanding, or any patience to learn, a man convinced that his half-thought proclamations are worth more than the military, foreign policy, environmental, etc. experts. Obviously, I don't approve of their choice in the least and find it difficult to understand how they could be hornswaggled by this egotistical charlatan.

But love of Putin didn't enter the consideration.

Will you agree with your family IF Clinton runs afoul of the law as this investigation continues?

You do realize there is talk of pardoning her?

 

[Belz...]

Lol

That is the most hilarious thing I've seen all day!

You really need him to explain don't you?

Oh, by all means. Try me. I know you can't, so this should be good.

 

[logger]

Yeah, I really do. You think that the other side of "bad" is "great". You have a pathetic understanding of logic and reason.

You seem to need the most simplistic things explained to you.

 

[Belz...]

You do realize there is talk of pardoning her?

Which you can do to an innocent person, so it doesn't mean what you think it means.

 

[phiwum]

Look at the county by county breakdown of your state. I've not yet found even one red county with a university or community college. Theyre all blue, surrounded by red, in every state I've looked at so far.

Have you looked at Oklahoma?

Every county is red.

Kansas has one blue county. I'm pretty sure that's a college town, but they have two state universities, so they are also a counterexample.

You have a cute theory, but it just ain't so.

Source

ETA: Fayette County, PA, has Penn State Fayette. Bowling Green, OH has Bowling Green State. Both of those are red. It's not hard to find counterexamples to your claim. Pick a state that went red, go to WP and find a list of universities. Check it against the CNN site (which shows county names on mouseover, unlike the Globe).

 

[Belz...]

You seem to need the most simplistic things explained to you.

No, I need the nonsensical things explained, and you, right now, have not done so. Simply laughing at someone and saying "ha ha ha you don't understand that's so funny!" neither demonstrates that _you_ understand nor does it show that the thing to be understood makes any sense at all.

 

[logger]

Oh, by all means. Try me. I know you can't, so this should be good.

OK

If Trump ran such a bad campaign and he won, that would mean hillary ran an even worse campaign because she lost?

There's an even simpler answer, Trump ran a great campaign and hillary is the one who ran a terrible campaign. This is called rejecting your premise that he ran a terrible campaign.

 

[logger]

Which you can do to an innocent person, so it doesn't mean what you think it means.

Yes, because everyone will look at her as innocent.

 

[Belz...]

OK

If Trump ran such a bad campaign and he won, that would mean hillary ran an even worse campaign because she lost?

No, it wouldn't. It only would if the only possible explanation for the loss is that her campaign was bad. That was exactly what I was trying to explain to Dog, but so far neither of you seem to be able to grasp that.

There's an even simpler answer, Trump ran a great campaign

Yeah but that runs counter to reality so we can discard it.