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Trump - One Term or Two

Travis said:
I, for one, have no intention of working with or coming together with conservatives. They are vile and this only reinforces it. This only serves to fuel my desire for a decisive cultural war where either they are utterly destroyed or the liberals die trying.
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Wow, I don't know if you realize this but you've made a perfect example of an Anti-American statement. You do know that you are free to believe as you wish, but others with differing opinions likewise enjoy that same freedom? You cannot suppress everyone that doesn't agree with you in the US. You'll need to try ascending to power in China if that's the position and philosophy you seek. Communism and the philosophy of an absolute dictator doesn't work here. Freedom, remember?

The Country is divided and those who supported the losing side will be bitter, but please keep in mind we are in this together as Americans, for better or worse. You are still free regardless who won. Freedom.

The USA is just that, the USA. If you wish to change it into China, expect to be disappointed. Our Country may not be perfect but it sure ain't bad when compared to others. As an American you have the freedom to live as you like as long as you don't hurt anyone or break the law. Worship any God of choice or a potato, or not, makes no difference. We're free. And if we don't like the philosophy here, we're free to leave. Chris B.
 
ChrisBFRPKY said:
Wow, I don't know if you realize this but you've made a perfect example of an Anti-American statement. You do know that you are free to believe as you wish, but others with differing opinions likewise enjoy that same freedom? You cannot suppress everyone that doesn't agree with you in the US. You'll need to try ascending to power in China if that's the position and philosophy you seek. Communism and the philosophy of an absolute dictator doesn't work here. Freedom, remember?

The Country is divided and those who supported the losing side will be bitter, but please keep in mind we are in this together as Americans, for better or worse. You are still free regardless who won. Freedom.

The USA is just that, the USA. If you wish to change it into China, expect to be disappointed. Our Country may not be perfect but it sure ain't bad when compared to others. As an American you have the freedom to live as you like as long as you don't hurt anyone or break the law. Worship any God of choice or a potato, or not, makes no difference. We're free. And if we don't like the philosophy here, we're free to leave. Chris B.
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1. something you're probably going to see increase.
2. I'm starting to wonder how long this will last for
3. except maybe the islamic god. Those guys are probably feeling a little less free. (but of course if they don't like that, they can **** off)
 
Trump's Cabinet:

- Attorney General: James Comey
- Secretary of Health: Dr. Oz
- White House Press Secretary: Julian Assange
- Secretary of Education: Jeff Epstein
 
TofuFighter said:
1. something you're probably going to see increase.
2. I'm starting to wonder how long this will last for
3. except maybe the islamic god. Those guys are probably feeling a little less free. (but of course if they don't like that, they can **** off)
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#3 is simply Leftist rhetoric. If you remember from my previous post:

"As an American you have the freedom to live as you like as long as you don't hurt anyone or break the law."

Folks who are coming into the US should be checked out a bit. And so? If you invite someone into your home, chances are you're gonna want to know who they are........Common sense isn't so common anymore it would seem. Chris B.
 
ChrisBFRPKY said:
Wow, I don't know if you realize this but you've made a perfect example of an Anti-American statement. You do know that you are free to believe as you wish, but others with differing opinions likewise enjoy that same freedom? You cannot suppress everyone that doesn't agree with you in the US. You'll need to try ascending to power in China if that's the position and philosophy you seek. Communism and the philosophy of an absolute dictator doesn't work here. Freedom, remember?

The Country is divided and those who supported the losing side will be bitter, but please keep in mind we are in this together as Americans, for better or worse. You are still free regardless who won. Freedom.

The USA is just that, the USA. If you wish to change it into China, expect to be disappointed. Our Country may not be perfect but it sure ain't bad when compared to others. As an American you have the freedom to live as you like as long as you don't hurt anyone or break the law. Worship any God of choice or a potato, or not, makes no difference. We're free. And if we don't like the philosophy here, we're free to leave. Chris B.
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Wrong. You could consider the comment undemocratic, yes, and certainly heat of the moment. It is not anti-American; the US has no monopoly on democracy whatsoever, and most certainly and definitely not on democratic theory, something the Right has totally forgotten exists.

You are not in anything together as Americans, either. The country still has not come to terms with its own factual past; is lacking a Truth Commission to document slavery, the Confederacy and Jim Crow; continues to run roughshod over what it laughingly calls "sovereign" Indian Nations; and in general the majority have no sense what it is to be a minority....

... except in one thing: whites should never be or become a minority. Gosh, what if other people start acting the way whites do once they are a majority? How unfair and impossible to contemplate! (Thankfully, there is little sign of "repressive excellence" among US minorities, so little to fear.)
 
I honestly have no idea. Part of me thinks he won't last a full term due to boredom, frustration or scandal. Part of me wouldn't be surprised if he convinces the electorate that he's done a good job (whether he has or not) and deserves a second term.

Most interesting commentary I have seen so far has suggested that he won't be a hands-on President, involved in policy and negotiation - he will leave that to others (with Pence taking a prominent role) and will simply act as CEO, sitting at the big table and signing things.

To be honest, I'm more concerned about the routes to power now for Pence, who has worrying views and the political experience to make things happen from a position of strength.
 
ChrisBFRPKY said:
#3 is simply Leftist rhetoric. If you remember from my previous post:

"As an American you have the freedom to live as you like as long as you don't hurt anyone or break the law."

Folks who are coming into the US should be checked out a bit. And so? If you invite someone into your home, chances are you're gonna want to know who they are........Common sense isn't so common anymore it would seem. Chris B.
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Bolded - You couldn't be more correct.

Feel free to point out where i said anything about muslim immigrants, but since you're letting people into your house, Chris, tell me why it is that you're more suspicious of muslims than anyone else. Then tell me how that reconciles with how you feel about muslims already living in the US.

Is it leftist rhetoric to suggest that muslims in the US are feeling less free to worship their god openly as a result of Trump's election? Trump having used anti-muslim rhetoric in rally after rally to excite his followers. Followers who would now feel empowered by his success. Or are you comfortable that those followers will just use common common sense, as opposed to Trump's common sense which expressly says that profiling muslims is something that should be done.
 
ChrisBFRPKY said:
Wow, I don't know if you realize this but you've made a perfect example of an Anti-American statement. You do know that you are free to believe as you wish, but others with differing opinions likewise enjoy that same freedom? You cannot suppress everyone that doesn't agree with you in the US. You'll need to try ascending to power in China if that's the position and philosophy you seek. Communism and the philosophy of an absolute dictator doesn't work here. Freedom, remember?
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As an outsider looking in, I must say that your reaction to what was being proposed seems remarkably hypocritical given the way the Republicans set out to stall, delay or just plain refuse to work with President Obama. Odd that.
 
BDBoop said:
Impeachment within the year for racketeering and fraud wrt Trump University, for starters.
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While I understand where you are coming from, unless he commits the offenses while in office, adjudication of such would probably be put on hold until after his term in office. At least that is the tradition.

Impeachment is generally a process intended to remedy abuse and corruption of the office and powers of the Presidency. an involved civil or criminal case would be obstruct a president from fulfilling his elected duties and responsibilities.

From another perspective, a president Pence could be a lot worse than a president Trump in a lot of ways.
 
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ChrisBFRPKY said:
#3 is simply Leftist rhetoric. If you remember from my previous post:

"As an American you have the freedom to live as you like as long as you don't hurt anyone or break the law."
Folks who are coming into the US should be checked out a bit. And so? If you invite someone into your home, chances are you're gonna want to know who they are........Common sense isn't so common anymore it would seem. Chris B.
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They ARE.

How do you think domestic terrorist attacks are as low as they are?
 
Trakar said:
From another perspective, a president Pence could be a lot worse than a president Trump in a lot of ways.
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Maybe Trump can make this administration into a reality show...with Trump and Pence competing over A) who can be the very worst president and B) who can be the very worst human being. The "audience" calls in their votes each week.
 
trustbutverify said:
Maybe Trump can make this administration into a reality show...with Trump and Pence competing over A) who can be the very worst president and B) who can be the very worst human being. The "audience" calls in their votes each week.
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I agree in principle, with the caveat that I want 24/7 camera coverage of every single moment of the Trump administration, broadcast and streamed to the world.
 
Travis said:
I, for one, have no intention of working with or coming together with conservatives. They are vile and this only reinforces it. This only serves to fuel my desire for a decisive cultural war where either they are utterly destroyed or the liberals die trying.
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I was taught to respect my neighbors no matter how hateful they are. Its a shame
 
Border Reiver said:
As an outsider looking in, I must say that your reaction to what was being proposed seems remarkably hypocritical given the way the Republicans set out to stall, delay or just plain refuse to work with President Obama. Odd that.
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My, to back up your statement, please name one thing, just one, that Obama was denied by Republicans...........Can you?

I rest my case. Chris B.
 
TofuFighter said:
Bolded - You couldn't be more correct.

Feel free to point out where i said anything about muslim immigrants, but since you're letting people into your house, Chris, tell me why it is that you're more suspicious of muslims than anyone else. Then tell me how that reconciles with how you feel about muslims already living in the US.

Is it leftist rhetoric to suggest that muslims in the US are feeling less free to worship their god openly as a result of Trump's election? Trump having used anti-muslim rhetoric in rally after rally to excite his followers. Followers who would now feel empowered by his success. Or are you comfortable that those followers will just use common common sense, as opposed to Trump's common sense which expressly says that profiling muslims is something that should be done.
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You didn't specify any one group in particular. My specification is largely tied to the fact we are at war with terrorism. I'm not as concerned with Latinos since they seem to refrain from crashing planes into buildings at this point.

Personally, I'm more suspicious of Muslim immigrants as radicalized Muslims blend in with the good folks. Since we seem to be at war with radicalized Muslim terrorism, and not with the Muslim faith in general, common sense would dictate we attempt to separate one from the other when admitting them into our Nation.

Also there is the fact that radical extremists have been placed within the select group of refugees in question.

If you remember, Obama had stated the these radicals were not following the true teachings of Islam. That may be true in his opinion but what is also true is that these folks are of the opinion they are following those teachings. So one group is affiliated with the other simply by the religion they share.

I'm comfortable that investigation of terror cells within the US will be accomplished by those agencies tasked with that job. Chris B.
 
Screw Islam. Now, back to predictions on Trump's term in office. I predict that by the end of a successful first term, his voodoo still seeming sound, at least two of the three points below will apply to actions taken by his administration. By the end of an increasingly desperate and disastrous second term, all three.

From the Office of the Historian of the USA:

Quote:
The Charter of the International Military Tribunal (or Nuremberg Charter) was annexed to the 1945 London Agreement and outlined the tribunal’s constitution, functions, and jurisdiction. The Nuremberg tribunal consisted of one judge from each of the Allied powers, which each also supplied a prosecution team. The Nuremberg Charter also provided that the IMT had the authority to try and punish persons who “committed any of the following crimes:”

(a) Crimes Against Peace: namely, planning, preparation, initiation or waging of a war of aggression, or a war in violation of international treaties, agreements or assurances, or participation in a Common Plan or Conspiracy for the accomplishment of any of the foregoing;
(b) War Crimes: namely, violations of the laws or customs of war. Such violations shall include, but not be limited to, murder, ill-treatment or deportation to slave labor or for any other purpose of civilian population of or in occupied territory, murder or ill-treatment of prisoners of war or persons on the seas, killing of hostages, plunder of public or private property, wanton destruction of cities, towns, or villages, or devastation not justified by military necessity;
(c) Crimes Against Humanity: namely, murder, extermination, enslavement, deportation, and other inhumane acts committed against any civilian population, before or during the war, or persecutions on political, racial, or religious grounds in execution of or in connection with any crime within the jurisdiction of the Tribunal, whether or not in violation of domestic law of the country where perpetrated.
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