Hillary Clinton is Done: part 4

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PhantomWolf said:
At which point it is the writer that is the one that is in trouble, not the receiver, or the person that set up/owned the server.

And on top of that, the writer has to be aware that the information is classified, and send it deliberately.

Since there is no evidence of Hillary ever having done this, (the only classified materials she had on her server were sent to her, and either not classified at the time of sending, or in 3 occasions, were incorrectly labelled because the email didn't have the classified headers) why would you speculate that anything on this computer would be an issue for Hillary?
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Issue for Hillary? Criminal or as a person running for president?
 
Shalamar said:
Poor Poor The Big Dog. You and your illusory Superiority. You've yet to prove that they are propaganda sites. They being progressive sites, does not make them propaganda. helped along by Hillary Clinton does not make them propaganda. And you've yet to actually talk about the story.

Lolz face palm drop mic.
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Uh huh, and you don't know who Neera Tanden and David Brock are.

and now you are lying about the "story" on the propaganda site.
 
wareyin said:
Ok, to start with "through her server" would implicate Clinton, how? I mean seriously, the idea that more than a couple emails in this "new" investigation weren't a duplicate of one in the original is flat out partisan stupid. However, even if you found a few, your claim is similar to blaming the city I was speeding in because they own the property. Explain how Clinton would be guilty because Huma Abedin may have mishandled over classified information about when Clinton was supposed to get to the Hamptons.
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One scenario is if the information originated with Clinton. She was SoS after all. Her plans or dealings can easily be born classified at the highest level. It could be defense strategies discussed between staff members. It could be cabinet meeting notes. It could be correspondence with foreign leaders. It is plausible she chose not to include them in the emails she submitted....and now those emails turn up on Weiners computer. There are lots of possibilities.

If we find that there are simply forwarded emails we already know about, then Comey's statement was completely premature and irresponsible. In that case, there would nothing to justify a new warrant and statement to congress when it could have easily waited 2 weeks.

We will have to wait and see what the true motivation was to proceed as they did- if we are ever told.
 
PhantomWolf said:
If by "touchy" you mean sick of people posting moronic conspiracy theory drivel as if it has some merit, then you're probably right.
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You don't read very well do you? Asking if anyone had seen it meant I was asking for opinions on it. Besides when the clintons are involved, who knows what to expect.
 
The Big Dog said:
Web sites run by Neera Tanden and David Brock not propandanda sites?

'K.

Snerk!
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Well, this would be an ad hom by any definition that utterly fails to inform me HOW you decide ...

Except that it informs me quite thoroughly how you decide, and it's based on the kind of logic that starts with an ad hom fallacy.

Fox News is propaganda. McNeil/Lehrer report is not. Any idea why?
 
wareyin said:
If that is true, my opinion of the FBI as an investigative group has dropped considerably.
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Disclaimer: I'm about three pages behind in this thread, so this will probably have been ninja'd.

The FBI has been corrupt in a lot of ways since the day J. Edgar Hoover was sworn in as director. Illegal wiretapping? Check. Illegal surveillance of people Hoover didn't like? Check. Fake forensics? Check. Editing Wikipedia to remove unfavorable references? Check. Covering up Watergate? Check. Investigating the paranormal on Fox? Ok, that was fiction. Maybe.
 
Jrrarglblarg said:
Well, this would be an ad hom by any definition that utterly fails to inform me HOW you decide ...

Except that it informs me quite thoroughly how you decide, and it's based on the kind of logic that starts with an ad hom fallacy.

Fox News is propaganda. McNeil/Lehrer report is not. Any idea why?
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But sites run by a member of Hillary's transition team and David Brock who runs correct the record are not?

'k.

Here is one single email from Podesta to Tanden that is absolutely all you need to know about what the 'skeptics" around here know about propaganda:

Brock $ machine!

I am not at all surprised that they don't know what propaganda means.
 
TubbaBlubba said:
It's hard to imagine that an organization born and nurtured by the hands of such a man of character and integrity as J. Edgar Hoover, has fallen this far.

He must be turning in his grave.
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Still several pages behind. J. Edgar was exactly the sort to have been a Yuge Trump supporter, using illegal tactics and blackmailing a long succession of Presidents throughout his tenure. No integrity whatever.
 
Trebuchet said:
Still several pages behind. J. Edgar was exactly the sort to have been a Yuge Trump supporter, using illegal tactics and blackmailing a long succession of Presidents throughout his tenure. No integrity whatever.
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And J. Edgar, Giuliani and Trump do like "dressing" up (with the emphasis on "dress").
 
There are two Hillary Clinton threads going now and I don't know which one to post this in. It was mentioned in the 'All Purpose' thread but I've been posting in this one so I decided to put this here.
Sources within the FBI have told him [FOX News Bret Baier] that an indictment is "likely" in the case of pay-for-play at the Clinton Foundation, "barring some obstruction in some way" from the Justice Department.
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FOX News' Brett Baier reported on this Wednesday although, in contradiction to the above, he stated it was NOT anyone within the FBI who gave him the information but sources "with an intimate knowledge of the FBI." I don't have time right now to post a link but if you Google "Clinton Foundation Indictment Likely" you'll get links to various sources. With the exception of AOL News they all seem to be right wing sites. Breitbart, WND, etc. The mainstream media seems to be leaving it alone which I guess means either the mainstream media is in cahoots with Clinton or they don't think it's a very credible report.

What is worrying to me is, it has been reported that many people in the FBI totally support Donald Trump and despise Hillary Clinton. The Wall Street Journal has reported some of the FBI field offices have been pushing to have the Clinton Foundation investigation amped up. It is beginning to seem as though factions within the FBI are trying to influence the election. There are also reports (in the Journal for one) that senior prosecutors in the Justice Department have been less than enthusiastic about the Clinton Foundation investigation. That the FBI is overreaching, taking hearsay reports and doggedly trying to find something.

Meantime, for the first time in U.S. history, one presidential candidate is calling for the other presidential candidate to be imprisoned.

This is getting crazier and crazier but one fact seems to stand out: democracy is really taking a beating.
 
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Trebuchet said:
Still several pages behind. J. Edgar was exactly the sort to have been a Yuge Trump supporter, using illegal tactics and blackmailing a long succession of Presidents throughout his tenure. No integrity whatever.
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I was being sarcastic.
 
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