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Ed Olympic swimmers may have lied about being robbed

Reports: U.S. swimmer Jimmy Feigen to pay $10,800 to leave Brazil
Feigen's lawyer said that under Brazilian law, a donation can be made to avoid prosecution for minor offenses but he did not say what charge was being contemplated against his client, according to the Associated Press.
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A donation can be made, riiight.

Corruption report: Brazil
Brazilian Judicial System
Companies operating in Brazil are likely to encounter corruption at local levels of the judiciary (BTI 2014). Corruption is a problem in this sector as judges are often bribed (BTI 2014). At local levels, the judiciary is subject to external influence from political and economic groups (BTI 2014). While the Brazilian judiciary is constitutionally independent (BTI 2014), it is heavily overburdened and bureaucratic, leading to lengthy processes and a backlog of unheard cases (ICS 2015; HRR 2014). The regulatory system to settle disputes and challenge regulations is considered inefficient (GCR 2015-2016).

Brazilian Police
Companies should note the risk of corruption and external influence in Brazil's police sector. The police force is entrenched in corruption, violence and acts with impunity (FitW 2015). Companies find the police moderately reliable but state business costs can arise due to crime and violence (GCR 2015-2016). Powerful landlords in remote or rural areas of the country have a significant influence on the police (BTI 2014), and the state police are considered to be excessively violent at times (HRR 2014). The police is an active institution in the fight against corruption and has arrested several high-profile officials and investigated various cases of corruption (HRR 2014). Recently, Brazil's police are investigating major cases such as corruption in the state-owned oil company Petrobras, along with fraud and overpricing allegations against construction companies involved with the world cup stadiums (BBC, Aug. 2015).
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You think because it's open that means there's no corruption? Why would a judge order any of the swimmers to donate to a charity to make a certain little legal hassle disappear? And $11,000? Really?

More likely than not the judge and maybe a few other officials get some or all of that money.
 
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Skeptic Ginger said:
You think because it's open that means there's no corruption? Why would a judge order any of the swimmers to donate to a charity to make a certain little legal hassle disappear? And $11,000? Really?

More likely than not the judge and maybe a few other officials get some or all of that money.
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To teach them a lesson that they aren't special

I thought it was obvious.

They insulted their country and still don't have the balls to apologise

I would have made him pay more
 
And why do you still say everything is currupt from one offs in the Olympics?

As I say. Must mean all U.S. athletes are liars
 
As it turns out, many elements of the story are true. Lochte embellished them a bit and the media went *********** crazy. .
 
alfaniner said:
As it turns out, many elements of the story are true. Lochte embellished them a bit and the media went *********** crazy. .
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Which bits?

A security guard pointing his gun at some 6 foot whatever drunken aggresive ******** who has just vandalised a building with his 3 mates?
 
The irony is in some U.S. states the security guard would have got away with just shooting him
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
You think because it's open that means there's no corruption? Why would a judge order any of the swimmers to donate to a charity to make a certain little legal hassle disappear? And $11,000? Really?

More likely than not the judge and maybe a few other officials get some or all of that money.
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Have you ever stopped to consider that maybe this is allowed under Brazilian law? If it's allowed under Brazilian law, then, by definition, it's not corruption.

Not ever country has the same laws we do. Perhaps you need to get out and do some traveling.
 
I learned from Ginger that corruption is everywhere and at all levels in Latin America.

The security guards used armed robbery to get $50 from the swimmers. That money is expected to then be handed to the gas station owner for repairs of the vandalism. But actually the guards are corrupt and the money stays in their pocket. But then the "real police" show up and they are of course corrupt. They learn of the $50 robbery and promptly rob the security guards at gunpoint getting the $50 and maybe more for themselves. The gas station owner gets nothing but it doesn't matter much because he is corrupt too and rips off his customers at every opportunity.

Now the Judge is of course going to pocket the $11,000 from Feigen. But that won't work for him because he too will be robbed at gunpoint by some corrupt cop.

Mentor Ginger, am I doing this right?
 
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3point14 said:
From the link: "The lawyer said under Brazilian law, a donation can be made to avoid criminal prosecution for minor offenses,"
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This actually backs up Ginger's thoughts about police corruption there.

However, it needs to be repeated; if they hadn't been drunk ******** in the first place, and then lied about it, this wouldn't be a story.
 
Believe it or not. In some country's paying reperation is normal. It is even publicly announced like this one and goes to charity

Not every country wastes weeks spending time in court over a misdemeanor paying lawyers.

When they can just teach the dude left a lesson.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
Really, you guys are doubling down claiming an $11,000 fine was just business as usual?:rolleyes:
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Yes

No difference to here sometimes.

Most countries don't spend half their lives in court rooms when you can just give him a slap on the arse and tell him not to come back.

Seriously mate. Everyone else is about 90 x less litigious

Did you miss the charity bit?
 
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