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What will happen at the Democratic Convention?
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that's fear you smell
Tony Stark
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Fear of what? Trump. I'm glad he's the likely nominee. The Republicans couldn't have picked a more unelectable candidate (well maybe Ted Cruz).
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And yet, there was zero introspection. The Democrats did not step back and go "Whoa. A third party got a sizeable chunk of the vote, and a bunch of our own party voted for Bush! Where did we go wrong?"
Nope! Instead their strategy was A) sue Nader everywhere to keep him off ballots, B) run a disinfo campaign to discourage people from voting for him, and C) run a hawk against Bush.
It wasn't successful, and Bush got re-elected, but hey! At least Nader didn't win!
So, um, Trump is unelectable, yet somehow the Green Party is going to get him elected?
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It's Nader's fault that Gore's bungled campaign couldn't win his own home state against Bush? And then so totally mismanaged the aftermath that although he had more votes than Bush in Florida conceded the state? And you blame the voters for voting for the candidate that best represented their policy views?
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Trakar
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What makes you believe that Senator Warren would want to give up her Senate Seat to give Clinton support while getting nothing in return except a diminished standing among the public who support her?
Trebuchet
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I really hope President Clinton the Second doesn't strip the Senate of senior Democrats like Barack Obama did in 2009. That contributed to the fiasco of 2010.
dudalb
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Happens every election year at both big conventions.
Difference is that all the Democratic big shots will be attending and speaking at the Dem Convention;whereas most GOP bigshots are avoiding Cleveland like the plague.The celbes at the Convention are icing on the cake at the Dems;at the GOP convention they are the main attraction.
Trebuchet
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I have as much interest in watching this cons as I do in the Olympics. Which ain't much.
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That's why a lot of us loathe Nader -he put what he wanted to do over electing a not-republicker. He was an idiot wanting his way and he stole enough wasted votes to get Bush the idiot brother elected -again. Too many politicians do not look at the big picture and think they actually mean something.
Depends on how badly she wants to save the country from republicker's fears and evildoing due to those fears.
That would be fears that poorer people and middle class people might get lower cost health care - including medicine, that all public schools would receive all the resources they actually need to be able to educate and turn out good students ready to work and/or move up to higher education, that educational daycare and meals for the younger children would be free and of good quality - just for starters.
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You seem to be saying that it depends entirely upon how much she believes the fanatical morons on the left proclaiming that Savior Hillary is the only one who can save this nation from the great Satan that is Trump. I tend to agree, hopefully, she is smarter than that, if not, it is better to find out now.
Foolmewunz
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That's you second use of "fanatical morons... left" in your past couple of posts. The fanatical morons are going to Philadelphia to take over the convention for Bernie and planned as of last week to register twenty million new voters to push him over the top in November, whether he wants to run or not.
The fanatical morons are calling Bernie and Elizabeth Warren "traitor".
What you are referring to as fanatical morons are people who disagree with you. Felt the Bern, did you? Us fanatical morons have been calmly laying out our plan to stop the GOP. It happens to be Trump. It could be Carson or Cruz or Rubio.... it's the Republican Party that needs to be stopped.
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That statement wasn't first used by me, and seems quite subjective. If you find it offensive, perhaps you should have directed your comment to the ones employing it to attack others personally, something I have yet to do.
Personally, I believe there is more than enough room under the banner of "fanatical morons on the left" for both the Bernie Bros and the clutch of "get out of her way, it's her turn," Hillarites. (especially since I don't consider myself as a member of either group, and since I've never considered you, or most others here on the left, Democratic or otherwise, to be such examples, I'm not really sure why you take offense when I talk about some of the idiots on the left).
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I don't find the term offensive. I am a proud member of the lunatic left. Have been for decades.
I just find your repeated use of the terms curious. Words have meanings. I remember hearing a great line in A Hard Day's Night.... something along the lines of "take your pimply hyperbole". Great put-down. I've been dying to use it for fifty years, but the actual opportunity has not arisen because.... words have meanings.
"Fanatical" and "left" do not fit when you're describing the group that those of the fanatical left consider to be Republican Lite, Corporatist Democrats, Far Too Conservative, Tools of Wall Street, etc... Particularly when you've got Bernie Crazies who are insisting this ain't over 'til it's over, turning on Bernie for endorsing Hillary, calling Elizabeth Warren a traitor for stumping for her, etc...
Frankly, it sounds like you coined a phrase you like using, but you haven't found anyone to apply it to. The action you're describing, appealing to all left and left-ish voters to vote their self-serving interests and stop the GOP, is a calm, cool, thought out strategy. It is well short of "fanatical", and quite far from "left". Whether it's moronic or not depends. Meh? I've never self-identified as a Republican and think that hatred of the New GOP is quite sane, intelligent and logical.
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not at all, just using Mr. Stark's phrase in a manner that is more applicable to my perceptions and perspective.
The Dems will have A-list speakers (Scott Baio? Seriously?); will have a positive message and be united; Bernie, Barack, and Michelle will give a hell of a speech (Hillary will do OK), and the bounce the Dems get out of their convention will be permanent.
Oh, and nobody will plagiarize anything.
Oh, and nobody will plagiarize anything.
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Don't forget Bill, Joe, and Elizabeth.
Wouldn't be surprised if we see Obama or Michelle referencing it for a joke, they both have the skill to do it in regards to public speaking. Mind you that will only be playing to the crowd as it will have no effect at all on the mainstream Trump supporters.