Bullish on Bernie: The Bernie Sanders 2016 Thread II

wareyin said:
Is Trump doing well with any other demographic than white males?
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Well enough to have a slight lead in the polls. White males, even if he's winning 100% of them, aren't enough to give him a lead. They're only around 30% of the electorate.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
Beware of news headlines that don't mean bupkis.

RCP FL polls aren't exactly showing a consistent pattern.

From here until Nov there will be 24/7 news on the election. They don't have anything close to 24/7 things to say.
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'We now go live to Becky, outside Trump HQ. Any updates, Becky?'
'Yes, Todd, I'm here to confirm that yes, Trump is still a bloated orange fungus. There has been no diminution of his crapitude in the last hour, and his stench remains pervading and vomit-inducing.'
'Thanks, Becky, we'll check in in another hour to see if there has been any change. This is Channel 8's Trumpwatch, keeping you informed.'
 
I think the choice of hard line social conservative Pence as Veep will kill off any chance of Trump picking up Bernie supporters in any number.
 
Fudbucker said:
Well enough to have a slight lead in the polls. White males, even if he's winning 100% of them, aren't enough to give him a lead. They're only around 30% of the electorate.
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What is his lead in FL? What percentage of FL voters are white male?

Your cherry-picked poll only has him at 42% to Clinton's 39%. If, as you claim (I can't be bothered to check your numbers) white males make up 30%, that leaves 12% coming from elsewhere. You may think that 12% of support from the rest of the population is significant, but I don't find it so.
 
I find it interesting that the last several posts have absolutely no mention of Bernie Sanders, lol.
 
wareyin said:
What is his lead in FL? What percentage of FL voters are white male?

Your cherry-picked poll only has him at 42% to Clinton's 39%. If, as you claim (I can't be bothered to check your numbers) white males make up 30%, that leaves 12% coming from elsewhere. You may think that 12% of support from the rest of the population is significant, but I don't find it so.
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Then don't make ******** claims. This is why I rarely respond to you. RCP AVERAGE has Trump ahead. I already posted the link.

And no, it's not cherry-picking to link to the most recent polling available, which has Trump up by 3 and 5 in Florida.
 
Bernie Sanders to write book out in November

Bernie Sanders has signed a book deal with Thomas Dunne Books, the publisher announced Thursday, just days after he formally endorsed presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton.

Sanders' book, which will be titled "Our Revolution: A Future to Believe In," will release November 15, a week after Election Day.

Neither Sanders' campaign nor the publisher would comment on the size of the book deal.

Read more:
http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/14/politics/bernie-sanders-book-deal/ (July 14, 2016)
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Rumor has it that Bernie Sanders is negotiating a series of $225,000 paid speeches to be given to his newfound best friends: Goldman Sachs and other Wall Street criminals.

A more fitting and appropriate title for his new book would have been "#SellOutSanders."
 
Fudbucker said:
Then don't make ******** claims. This is why I rarely respond to you. RCP AVERAGE has Trump ahead. I already posted the link.

And no, it's not cherry-picking to link to the most recent polling available, which has Trump up by 3 and 5 in Florida.
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You made the claim, you support it.

Yes, a right wing news source has Trump up. Wow.
 
wareyin said:
You made the claim, you support it.

Yes, a right wing news source has Trump up. Wow.
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Again, more ********. You would know that if you knew anything about politics. 538 gives Quinnipiac an A-. It's one of the most reputable polling organizations around, cited by all mainstream media outlets.

In July of 2012, Quinnipiac had Obama with a 3 point lead.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...eral_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html#polls
Obama ended up winning by 3.9.

So yeah, your posts are kind of hard to take seriously.

ETA: And I'm not going "support" claims I've already supported and facts you should know. Seriously, do you even know what RCP is?
 
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Fudbucker said:
Again, more ********. You would know that if you knew anything about politics. 538 gives Quinnipiac an A-. It's one of the most reputable polling organizations around, cited by all mainstream media outlets.

In July of 2012, Quinnipiac had Obama with a 3 point lead.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...eral_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html#polls
Obama ended up winning by 3.9.

So yeah, your posts are kind of hard to take seriously.
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You're having a hard time keeping up, aren't you? I already pointed out Quinnipiac's rating at fivethirtyeight, as well as how fivethirtyeight finds they add skew Republican. However RCP was the right wing news source you were able to find an average that shows Clinton behind on.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
Beware of news headlines that don't mean bupkis.

RCP FL polls aren't exactly showing a consistent pattern.

From here until Nov there will be 24/7 news on the election. They don't have anything close to 24/7 things to say.
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Polls are a snapshot in time of what people are thinking. The people in Florida don't want to vote for Clinton. The country, as a whole, prefers Clinton three more points than they do Trump. The latest poll (CBS) has it a tie. Do you really think CBS is part of the "right-wing"?

Do you think this can just be hand-waved away? Clinton is in a dead-heat with Trump! Trump of all people! How does that happen? Short of murder, Trump has done just about everything a person can do to disqualify him/herself as a candidate. And he's winning in a pivotal battleground state, and within the margin of error nationwide.

I don't see how a Democrat can look at these numbers and not cringe.
 
wareyin said:
You're having a hard time keeping up, aren't you? I already pointed out Quinnipiac's rating at fivethirtyeight, as well as how fivethirtyeight finds they add skew Republican. However RCP was the right wing news source you were able to find an average that shows Clinton behind on.
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RCP polling averages are "right wing"? Is that why Huffington post, NBC, and Salon cite RCP averages? Because they're so right wing?

Can you get more clueless?
 
wareyin said:
You don't know RCP is right wing? And you call me clueless?
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Yes, you are clueless, and also moving the goalposts. RCP polling averages (which I linked to) are not "right wing", are cited by pretty much everyone, and no one who knows anything about politics would claim that.
 
Fudbucker said:
Yes, you are clueless, and also moving the goalposts. RCP polling averages (which I linked to) are not "right wing", are cited by pretty much everyone, and no one who knows anything about politics would claim that.
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I think I see (one of the many sources of) your error, here: RCP is decidedly a right wing source. Occasionally, a desperate BernieBro linked to it, but this does not make it a neutral or left wing source. Your reliance on badly skewed sources is what leads you to believe every Clinton is teh debil rumor, and why you were so, so badly trounced in our discussions on Clinton v Sanders in the various contests. In fact, I don't recall you predicting a single state correctly, but, as always, I really don't feel the need to go back and source any claim you make (since they have so far been overwhelmingly not supported or wrong, that is). If you can, possibly, show evidence of a single state (or 2, go you!) that you called correctly against me, I would welcome the correction. Thank you for demonstrating your depth of political knowledge in advance!
 
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