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Istanbul airport attack

Travis said:
Well Al Qaeda once did. Of course we have kind of made them yesterday's news.
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Yep. Plus unlike ISIS, they seem to be bedbuddies with the Turks in Syria, so they aren't a highly likely candidate to begin with.

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McHrozni said:
It was three suicide bombers. That's more suicide bombers than there were in the entire of 2015 from groups that weren't radical Islamists.

So yeah, almost certainly ISIS. No one else has the capacity to pull such attacks.

McHrozni
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Are you being facetious? Of course other groups would be capable. 3 men with explosives is not an overwhelming project.
 
Caper said:
Christian are the poodles of terrorism... Islam is the pit bull.
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The question was not who do more of what. By the nature of terrorism there will be more of it in unstable countries especially those in civil or normal war.

the question was "got something this century" as if the pretension there was no christian terrorism after 1999 or 1899. It definitively is not so.

As for other religion (like christian) or ideology (like racist like KKK) not using bomb as much : indeed they use fire, bullet and slicing weapon far more (there is the rare American terrorist bomber - but they are not suicide bombers). For example most of what is considered terrorist activities in the US fall under the umbrella of anti federalism, or racism (yes there are a few well known outlyers) and AFAIR from fbi.gov web site they don't use bombs as much, as arson.
 
McHrozni said:
It was three suicide bombers. That's more suicide bombers than there were in the entire of 2015 from groups that weren't radical Islamists.

So yeah, almost certainly ISIS. No one else has the capacity to pull such attacks.
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Please. You never heard of IRA (*) ? They are in ceasefire. they are not disarmed. Ever heard of The kurd/PKK ? They have the capacity too. Yes it is almost certainly Islamist's responsibility but get real, they are only one among many , even some in Europe, which have the capacity for such attacks. Heck the roadside bombs like ISIS or whatever group is not new. Even IRA had their culvert bombs... And I am sure it was existing even before.

(*) yes I know they have no reason to do that, but he was speaking of capacity as if magically ISIS were the only one which could do such bombs or attacks
 
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Aepervius said:
Please. You never heard of IRA (*) ? They are in ceasefire. they are not disarmed. Ever heard of The kurd/PKK ? They have the capacity too. Yes it is almost certainly Islamist's responsibility but get real, they are only one among many , even some in Europe, which have the capacity for such attacks. Heck the roadside bombs like ISIS or whatever group is not new. Even IRA had their culvert bombs... And I am sure it was existing even before.

(*) yes I know they have no reason to do that, but he was speaking of capacity as if magically ISIS were the only one which could do such bombs or attacks
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From 1980 to 2003, it was actually the LTTE (the Tamil Tigers) that carried out more suicide bombing attacks than any other terrorist group, including al-Qaeda. They even invented the suicide belt to help them carry out attacks.

There's nothing special or unique about ISIS' attacks. They're just the current ones of a long line of terrorist groups of all nationalities, ideologies, and religions to be doing it.
 
A'isha said:
From 1980 to 2003, it was actually the LTTE (the Tamil Tigers) that carried out more suicide bombing attacks than any other terrorist group, including al-Qaeda. They even invented the suicide belt to help them carry out attacks.

There's nothing special or unique about ISIS' attacks. They're just the current ones of a long line of terrorist groups of all nationalities, ideologies, and religions to be doing it.
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I have to say I can't remember the IRA conducting suicide bombings.
 
Craig B said:
I have to say I can't remember the IRA conducting suicide bombings.
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Which says nothing about them being capable of doing so, nor of using explosives to similar ends.

Some are trying to make out as if ISIL were unique in several ways which they demonstrably are not.
 
Giz said:
Right on!

A moment of silence for all the airports bombed by Baptists. For all those murdered in malls by Methodists. For all those executed by Episcopalians. For all those bored witless by Jehovah’s Witnesses.

There are plenty of other religions who have fringe groups like ISIS, or Al-shabab, or Al-Quaida, or boko haram.
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You appear to be cherry picking from only recent events. Christianity raped, murdered, pillaged, burned and infected anyone who disagreed with them for several centuries. Wasn't Yeshu ben Yusuf supposed to be the Prince of Peace?
 
A'isha said:
There's nothing special or unique about ISIS' attacks. They're just the current ones of a long line of terrorist groups of all nationalities, ideologies, and religions to be doing it.
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Religion of Peace!!!!
 
lionking said:
I don't see how, but will wait for people better versed in Turkish politics. If it turns out to be Kurds (most unlikely) the reaction will be violent. If not, I can't see the Turks doing much different. They have maintained their secular status since the establishment of the country (as I recall) and will not surrender this.
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Turkey is a country with compulsory Islamic education and blasphemy laws. That's not secular.
 
Jrrarglblarg said:
You appear to be cherry picking from only recent events. Christianity raped, murdered, pillaged, burned and infected anyone who disagreed with them for several centuries. Wasn't Yeshu ben Yusuf supposed to be the Prince of Peace?
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Sure, go ahead and compare Islam now to Christianity in the 1600's.

Does that make you feel better?
 
tyr_13 said:
Which says nothing about them being capable of doing so, nor of using explosives to similar ends.

Some are trying to make out as if ISIL were unique in several ways which they demonstrably are not.
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I don't remember the IRA having a global reach.
 
Fudbucker said:
I don't remember the IRA having a global reach.
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They obtained weapons from Libya and funding from the US, but mainly they didn't need a global reach. The LTTE didn't have a global reach either, but that didn't stop them from being the most prolific suicide bombers on the planet for a while.
 
Giz said:
Sure, go ahead and compare Islam now to Christianity in the 1600's.

Does that make you feel better?
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Suppose everyone decides to say that "yep, that Islam sure is awful". What exactly is accomplished there? We aren't going to lock up everyone in the religion. So really how does pushing the angle that the religion is to blame in any way helpful?
 
What I meant by a change in Turkish foreign policy was to see the government possibly become more aggressive in fighting ISIS. Opposition parties inside Turkey have criticized the government for, at times in the past, tacitly supporting ISIS. One of the problem areas has been the southern border with Syria. It has been called a 'the jihadist's super highway' and it has been suggested Turkey could be doing a lot more to in terms of making the border secure.

Turkish officials have said there are indications three suicide bombers from the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL, also known as ISIS) carried out the deadly attacks at the Ataturk Airport, although no group has claimed responsibility. Turkish Prime Minister Binali Yildirim said efforts to identify the attackers, who arrived at the airport in taxis, were continuing. News link
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The Turkish government is leaning towards believing ISIS is responsible for the attack at the Istanbul airport. ISIS has not claimed responsibility but the group has staged suicide bombings in Turkey in the past.
 
A'isha said:
They obtained weapons from Libya and funding from the US, but mainly they didn't need a global reach. The LTTE didn't have a global reach either, but that didn't stop them from being the most prolific suicide bombers on the planet for a while.
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Muslims in Asia have much to fear when it comes to Buddhist terrorist attacks. Although whether those are religious-based or nationalist-based is a question someone better informed than me can answer.

But the world is a dangerous place, and not just because of Muslims.
 
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