Loss Leader
I would save the receptionist., Moderator
- Another basic/critical claim is that the likelihood of my current existence is unimaginably small (seven billion over infinity?) when given OOFLam.
Why are you reposting all of this stuff without answering any of the defects people have pointed out to you?
You cannot divide by infinity. Infinity isn't a number. Dividing by infinity gives zero, no matter what the numerator is. There are not an infinite number of things.
A very small probability is not zero. A little bit of something is not none of something.
What test can you devise to show that the universe is not completely deterministic? Perhaps all interactions of matter have to happen exactly as they are, given the starting conditions. If the universe is required to behave as it does, then the chance of you existing is 1, not very small.
You also have not explained why we're using the likelihood of your existence. Shouldn't we at least use the likelihood that something capable of working a computer would arise somewhere in the universe? And how would you calculate that seeing as we have exactly one data point?
Why do you continue treating your existence as a thing? It isn't. It's an ever-changing process of the cooperation of a trillion separate cells. Since "you" do not exist as a thing, how is it you treat yourself as an object?
I claim, however, that if there is even a reasonable possibility of an immaterial self, my current existence -- plus Bayesian statistics -- virtually proves that OOFLam is not correct.
Why do you suspect there is a reasonable possibility of an immaterial self? What are the characteristis of this immaterial self? How is it defined? How can we test for it? Why should we believe something is possible in the absense of any evidence - oreven a coherent definition - of it?
virtually zero
How is virtually zero the same as zero? Would you rather be virtually penniless or penniless? Would you rather be virtually blind or blind?
if there is no pool of potential selves (which there surely isn't) infinity is the right concept -- each new self was brand new, and never a twinkle.
Why are you sure there's no pool of potential selves? What is the definition of a self?
If the self is formed from the material brain, then there aren't an infinity number of potential selves. The number is the same as the potential arrangements of matter at some time somewhere in the universe that can work a computer. How do zero potential selves (your position) transform into infinite selves (your position)?
- PS -- I met with the SUNYA professor I was referred to, and he didn't agree with me either...
I am very glad to hear that my alma mater continues to be a place where reason and logic have at least some haven.
