Because I like to at least give some truth on a board that is so lacking of it. I did take note of your insult. Don't forget my question about conscience.
If you don't believe in God why do you post?
God's purpose
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If you don't believe in God why do you post?
Some do and some do no (or at least give little indication of having one). I already acknowledged that some theologians here interpret the conscience as something implanted by God. If so, God must have missed a few or messed up during installation. My informal survey up to now in my life suggests that people who profess a fervent belief in God are often much less likely to have a conscience that those who don't believe. It is almost as if many people who claim belief in God use it to justify their evil actions, whereas people who don't believe can't rationalize in this way and just try to do the right thing as they see it. The minority of believers I have met, those who don't use God to justify their own bad behavior, are the ones who are deeply humbled by trying to decide what is right and what is wrong, rather than just speed read a section in the Bible and twist it until it justifies what they wanted to do anyway.
I believe that we have a "conscience" just like we have fingerprints. Personally I believe that fingerprints are better evidence of God's love. So that we can open jars more efficiently.
What insult? I was not calling you an alien! Only questioning why, if you didn't care, your actions suggested otherwise.
And I didn't ask you "Why if you believe in God do you post? " The answer is obvious- presumably you wish to argue the basis for your belief in front of others. Which is the same reason I am posting the opposite argument (further inspired by your own posts, because otherwise I don't think I would have bothered).
I asked you: Why do you post if you don't care what other posters think, as you stated? I will admit to caring what other posters think- that, combined with my remarks above, is why I post. You?
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Hlafordlaes
Disorder of Kilopi
Sometimes I'm just tired of people, tell the truth. The fat guy was something for another post I never made and got repurposed. These are the stellar in-depth considerations I wished to lend to the urgent and meaningful God's purpose discussion.
Wow an incredible statement. Of course I would say the exact opposite, Christians are instrumental in organizing around the world doing good things for people.
As far as people losing their conscience, it's usually referred to as being seared conscience. Resulting from a life of constantly violating the inner conscience of that person. I've known people who have done that and the same people who were able to rebuild it.
My life has never been better, I've seen a lot of your lamenting Rogue, it doesn't look like you're very happy
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I don't like cake, but I'm having a Miller Lite right now.
I understand that the US now has a wide choice of good beers. As an ale drinker, I would recommend you try some. I believe that there are also good lagers available too.
I can't get a taste for the darker beers. I can't even stand wine, I have to drink the berry wines. Regular wine taste like rubbing alcohol to me.
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I don't like cake, but I'm having a Miller Lite right now.
No use trying to make people feel sorry for you!
Further proof that you are following the wrong god. Pray for forgiveness to a god of pale ale, porter, IPA, or a good stout!
Yelp- wrong god! You are currently living a Hell on Earth! Be careful: drinking like that can make a person bitter!
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abaddon
Penultimate Amazing
Yup. He/she/it/cat/horse is an irremediable monster as described.
At least in the OT when you were dead you were dead. It took the meek and mild jebus to invent eternal torture in the NT.
Belz...
Fiend God
Why would you even say that? You seem to think that atheists lack the believe in god because of some desire to rebel, not because they, you know, simply don't believe. If god appeared in front of me, and the evidence that he was actually there was objective, why would I reject his existence? That makes no sense unless you think atheists are atheists by ideological principle instead of a perceived lack of evidence.
It's even sillier than the usual excuse; that giving us clear evidence would somehow rob us of our free will.
I'll pass.
I think humans have a number of social behaviours, some learned and some innate, that increase the bonds within a group and thus allow us to survive as a species. That includes not killing each other, most of the time.
And good people and bad people seem to exist in all cultures, regardless of religion or lack thereof. Seems that belief in baby Jesus isn't a requirement for morality.
Tell that to the 10% of people who were left-handed, the 5% who were homosexual, or the whatever% who were not of the Christian faith during times past. Religion has been a force for good _and_ evil, just like everything else.
stanfr
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It's quite simple, really. God realized he is mortal, and is soon to die. Therefore, to ensure his lineage continues, he created everything to groom his successor. He took his cue from his mentor, Donald Trump. Life really is just a big version of the "Apprentice', in which God puts us all through a series of tasks in order to determine who gets his job once he passes away.
ETA: another analogy would be Willie Wonka...the universe is a chocolate factory basically...
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Magrat
Mrs. Rincewind
I live with my ex husband. No, I am currently not happy. Your point? Btw my church told me I should stay with my emotionally and mentally abusive, unfaithful husband, because "that's what the bible says". Bible also told him to keep his fly zipped, so, I really don't think it is relevant.
BTW as to the question of a "conscience". No, we don't have a "conscience", meaning, there is no part of the brain that tells you you're doing something right/wrong. What we have, in most people, is empathy. We teach our children that what we would feel in a situation, is what other people feel, but it isn't 100% necessary we even do that, as most primates, most mammals in fact, show empathy in at least a limited scope.
We internalize that message of "the golden rule" and feel a twinge of guilt when we do something we know we wouldn't like. Many of us feel that empathy for animals, which certainly isn't supported by the Bible given the amount of animal sacrifice they did (which I add because that's where you were going with that question). You can be taught not to be empathetic towards animals, but very young children show care for each other and for critters.
Even if we wanted to make the case "god" is our mental Jiminy cricket, how would that explain compassionate Hindus? Or bonobos? It doesn't, is the answer.
Eta what about sociopaths, who literally do not have a "conscience"? Did god miss a couple?
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abaddon
Penultimate Amazing
Ya know, I'm not sure that is healthy. Sometimes it works, but not often. My hex-wife is particularly peeved that I gave design control to my home to my children, or even that I have a home at all. Mostly, I shrug and say "it is not your business"
The babble also said you must shut the <bleep> up. Instant mysogyny.
Oh dammit. I could go on point by point. Suffice it to say that I have one awful ex-wife and two fantastic kids. I consider that a win by any measure.
Magrat
Mrs. Rincewind
Absolutely it isn't healthy. He has a lot of debt. I am not going to have him living in a cardboard box, so until we get enough of it paid off that he can afford to support me, the kids, and himself. I don't always like him, but I certainly won't let him suffer.
Thor 2
Philosopher
Yes sure.