The real alien conspiracy

[Alphaba]

You don't know what you are talking about.


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Norm

Nice , and what about that one:

Large original, by baczo, here: http://baczo.deviantart.com/art/fangs-84704818

 

[ComfySlippers]

"With great power comes great responsibility"
Those will be the words I utter when, as King of The World, I issue Internet-usage Licenses to my public if they pass the test.
They must then sing my National Anthem, the third line of the second verse being "Reading crap on the Internet does not a researcher make".

This thread has an Ickey whiff to it.



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[timhau]

"With great power comes great responsibility"
Those will be the words I utter when, as King of The World, I issue Internet-usage Licenses to my public if they pass the test.
They must then sing my National Anthem, the third line of the second verse being "Reading crap on the Internet does not a researcher make".

Your Grace,
I concur. That's what YouTube is for.

 

[Gord_in_Toronto]

Your Grace,
I concur. That's what YouTube is for.

Facebook, surely?

 

[timhau]

Facebook, surely?

No, Facebook is where cutting-edge research gets published.

 

[smartcooky]

You give no evidence. You point to what you say is a hole in the extraterrestrial hypothesis for UFOs, handwave a bunch of speculation regarding evolution, and then declare that UFOs are being flown by super intelligent lizards living at the bottom of the ocean.

No leaping to conclusions there. No, none at all.

Yep. It all sounds like Sagan's "Venusian Dinosaur Fallacy" to me...

 

[tinribmancer]

This thread is missing this:

http://whyareyoustupid.com/wp-content/uploads/ancient-aliens-guy-1024x896.jpg

Again, what is it we're not supposed to feed?

Our future overlords, The Lizard-Penguins.

So you are unsure of Bigfoot but you are sure about intelligent UFO flying reptoids living in Tardis Cities at the bottom of the ocean?

So, the Illuminati has already started with the deportation of their Lizard-Penguin army from Area 51 to the sunken Island of Atlantis...

...this is bad, very bad...

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...I don't trust that lizard, he's up to something. Nevertheless, it's good to see one of the Lizard People since I never saw one before...

...before they fuse...

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He asked for a pic from you and your wife. Not from you alone. Only 50% has been proven now!


On a more serious note, I always get a big grin on my face when someone is mentioning "extra-terrestrial life".

And sorry if the picture is too big, couldn't find a smaller one with the same text (tons of memes for this one, apparently).

 

[Axxman300]

Look, I was once big into UFOs.

Here's the problem with your thesis: the science...there isn't any.

That's not a crime, but your lack of knowledge of basic biology, oceanography, geology, and physics dooms your lizard-people concept.

At least with aliens from a distant galaxy you could hide behind "alien technology" that is millions of years ahead of ours. Basing them on earth is a goal-post maneuver to get around FTL travel.

Your concept begs the question, if they have this technology then why even stay on this planet? I have news for you, living deep in the ocean sucks, even for sea life, which is why the ocean floor is a desert populated by bone-eating worms, and very angry crabs. And as soon as mankind figures out the big physics problems and gets close to light speed travel we're off this rock so fast your head will spin.

 

[CORed]

Wet blanket! Hey without Anders, a bad Nazi, frantic Islamaphobe, The Italians won WWII believer and or a JFK loon what else do we have to chew on?

For me, the choice of whether to feed or not to feed depends entirely on whether or not the under-bridge dweller is entertaining. I fed Humber on three different forums, because he amused the hell out of me. Anders bored me to tears. I am reserving judgement on the current mythical creature. He shows some potential. The 'shrooms are a good touch, but it remains to be seen whether he can keep coming up with entertaining BS. Most become repetitive pretty quickly. It takes a lot of creativity to keep from becoming boring.

 

[tinribmancer]

Look, I was once big into UFOs.

Seriously? What made you change your opinion?

Here's the problem with your thesis: the science...there isn't any.

That's not a crime, but your lack of knowledge of basic biology, oceanography, geology, and physics dooms your lizard-people concept.

Not Lizard-People (that's old news), Lizard-Penguins. This was discussed over here:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=281537&page=15

Your concept begs the question, if they have this technology then why even stay on this planet?

Oh, but the Illuminati has already started the construction of a Space Station. My Source? Something I recorded from the radio:

http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net...ision/latest?cb=20150720205216&path-prefix=en

So, if they escape earth, their Lizard-Penguin mutations will do the rest and then people (whose left) will blame them, instead of the Illuminati.

I have news for you, living deep in the ocean sucks, even for sea life, which is why the ocean floor is a desert populated by bone-eating worms, and very angry crabs. And as soon as mankind figures out the big physics problems and gets close to light speed travel we're off this rock so fast your head will spin.

I have Hydrophobia, so I don't have any plan of living under the sea.

very angry crabs.

Interesting...

Any idea what made these crabs angry or were they always angry?

And as soon as mankind figures out the big physics problems and gets close to light speed travel we're off this rock so fast your head will spin.

Even faster than freefall?

 

[p0lka]

Lol. Glad to see at least mild support for my theory. I mean if you go by statistics its much more likely than ufos being extra terrestrial in origin. Reptiles evolved much earlier than primates and to think they didn't reach a level near our current in the past is very arrogant.

sentience is not a goal of evolution.

Just read Charles Stross on this - Yes there are deeply alien entities in the deeps - Yes there is a treaty between you humans and the Benthonic entities. Yes excessive contemplation of non-euclidean geometry can lead to possession.

love that author

 

[Metullus]

Lol. Glad to see at least mild support for my theory. I mean if you go by statistics its much more likely than ufos being extra terrestrial in origin. Reptiles evolved much earlier than primates and to think they didn't reach a level near our current in the past is very arrogant.

As did fish and amphibians and ferns and a myriad of other organisms - indeed these predated reptiles. Have the super-intelligent guppies and salamanders and ficus retired to the pan-dimensional refuges with your lizard folk?

 

[p0lka]

Where is the sentient vegetation?
They've been evolving for much longer the lazy things, and no sight of a veggie time-cube anywhere.

 

[Neutiquam Erro]

Where is the sentient vegetation?

Congress!

:rimshot:

 

[Kid Eager]

"Impress us with his amazing knowledge of science?"

He really should have studied some science *before* he came to the forum, if that was his intention.

 

[Matthew Ellard]

Debunking "The Law of One" cult.
The cult's framework is derived from isolated "channelling sessions" and cult member's read these separately using a search engine. This means that readers don't see all the conflicting claims in the total body of work at the same time. Additionally, as Carla was on LSD at the time, she made some very funny errors.

For example in 1954 "Ra the alien" was able to beam President Eisenhower to another galaxy for a meeting, but in 1979 "Ra the alien" is only able to contact people on earth through channelling. This obviously makes no sense.

When reading the cult's I noticed that the three owners didn't seem to have any history. They claimed they were students experimenting with "channelling". I thus looked into that and discovered that two of them wrote B-Grade, soft-core-porn, science fiction films. Carla also acted in the films. As we know Ron Hubbard wrote science fiction before starting Scientology. Jane Roberts wrote science fiction before channelling the alien Seth and starting her cult. This is exactly the same scenario.

"Invasion of the Girl snatchers" (1973) was their last film before starting the cult. In this film a prophet contacts UFO's and there are sex scenes. The prophets screen lines, as written by Carla Ruekert, are the same lines spoken by "Ra the alien" in 1979.

I then found a 1975 interview with Carla Ruekert about her film work. She clearly states her next aim was to write a book for profit and her business partner was into UFOs. This totally debunks the cult.
http://www.williamgirdler.com/carlar.html

Here is clip of "the UFO prophet" from that film ( No nudity & safe for work)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxARFVz0wkA

Photos
Here is Carla Ruekert, the leader of "The law of One" cult, in her earlier profession. She is about to take her top off, in 1973. I have other more revealing photos that I will not show. (This is a science forum ). the other is the same Carla channelling Ra, the alien on LSD, in 1979. (Freebill is Sonjouten, on the Skeptic Society forum and I was teasing him)

 

[Matthew Ellard]

"Impress us with his amazing knowledge of science?"

He really should have studied some science *before* he came to the forum, if that was his intention.

Sonjouten really does think he is a science genius. He also thinks he is a "semi-alien wanderer" with special knowledge and "a mission". He also has periods when he can't write coherent sentences and simply posts video clips of early 1970's rock bands and claims their lyrics are messages. I don't think he is 100% in good mental health.


Messages in Rock Music Lyrics.
http://www.skepticforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=26243&start=240#p501052

His desire to have Sex with a "Skeptic woman"
http://www.skepticforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=26243&start=280#p501413

 

[abaddon]

"Impress us with his amazing knowledge of science?"

Sonjouten really does think he is a science genius. He also thinks he is a "semi-alien wanderer" with special knowledge and "a mission". He also has periods when he can't write coherent sentences and simply posts video clips of early 1970's rock bands and claims their lyrics are messages. I don't think he is 100% in good mental health.

We have our own closet breatharian on here. Nothing surprises me anymore.

 

[Axxman300]

Seriously? What made you change your opinion?

The reasons are many, but it boils down to 2 central problems which the rest center around.

1. Like any Conspiracy Loon, the UFO subject is not about UFOs, it's almost always about the PERSON WHO SAW A UFO. That or the person's pet theory (like underwater dino-lizard men). I sat through over two-dozen MUFON meetings in the 1990s where abductees and contactees told their amazing stories, but when question and answer time arrived they were vague on details other than their fantastic story, and if someone (me) pressed too hard they would be ignored.

If you notice, almost every famous UFO incident has an advocate who's written books on the subject, and does radio shows, and conventions.

Actual UFO incidents, and I mean Unidentified Flying Objects, don't have an advocate, and tend to live in the news papers for a week or two before folks move on with their lives.

2. Almost nobody at MUFON, at least at the meetings I attended, was interested in collecting hard data, and getting to the bottom of a specific incident. It was all about belief, and not about knowledge.

In fact, within the UFO community, I was part of a sub-group called "Nuts & Bolts" because people like me were hung up on getting evidence...you know, physical evidence like soil samples from a landing site or whatever else someone could bag and take to a lab. The "Nuts & Bolts" folks usually get run out of meetings because we suck the fun out of the room...

...leaving just the Nuts...

I came to the conclusion that if the USAF actually had recovered alien space craft they could park them on the runway at Nellis with big neon signs that read "Captured Alien Space Ships!" and MUFON would scream "Disinformation!"

 

[Axxman300]

Interesting...

Any idea what made these crabs angry or were they always angry?

They're under a lot of pressure.

Even faster than freefall?

Actually, FTL and the Event Horizon are the same thing. In fact, the World Trade Center didn't collapse, it just got sucked into a parallel dimension where Yahoo Serious is president of the UN.