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The real alien conspiracy

abaddon said:
And you entirely missed the point. How heavy is the boundary between ice and water? How heavy is the boundary between water and steam? How heavy is the boundary between your garden and your neighbours garden? These are the meaningless questions you ask.
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and yet you are stating that there is no mass there, when in fact as far as science is concerned there is. you're the one arguing earthly political boundaries to define a physical space billions of miles away, but im the irrational one. yep sure am.

is the event horizon on earth devoid of mass? no there's an atmosphere. is the event horizon on the sun devoid of mass, no definitely not. yet you believe that the event horizon on a black hole is devoid of mass? honestly that sounds kinda.. racist..
 
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There have always been fairies at the bottom of the garden. They are totally immune to any destruction event as they can vanish into a black hole, or an event horizon, and defy logic. So they have been around for the better part of Three Billion years, when they evolved from the flatulence of early one celled creatures.

They evolved very early in earth terms, but have stayed in hiding, except when they were once photographed, but as they are so brilliant, they made believers who had the evidence, look like fools, through their secret agents (whom they mentally control).

They still control what they control, and do what they wish, although they are mostly passive. They mostly ignore us, but occasionally (as in Kennedy, Watergate, Twin Towers, and Kenyan born USA Presidents), they sometimes leave hints.

And times have changed. They live elsewhere now, and sometimes, they even put hints into writers to create something called science fiction, so that they can ensure that the dumb masses think that it is all fake. The best example of this is Pellucidar, where Edgar Rice Burroughs was brainwashed into faking what is actually a true inner earth. People thought it was fiction, and laughed.

But the truth is the Earth Aliens do not come from under the sea, but from the true inner world, the former fairies, where the North and South Polar openings are protected, and provide easy ingress and egress to our world. The fairies have evolved into Mahars.

Watch out for Mahars, the true reptoids who love to eat people.

Norm
 
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Isn't the main thesis of this thread roughly the plot of the Super Mario Bros. movie?
 
sonjouten said:
The universe is vast.. bigger than anyone knows.. that life only exists on earth is ludicrous.. but there's things you have to accept before you can truly believe ufo's are aliens from distant worlds.. for one thing any ufo that's spotted on earth most likely originated from earth. (By my estimates 5% of ufo sightings are unexplainable, and of that 5 about 90% are advanced devices created by "super terrestrial beings)

Why do i believe that? Well i believe in evolution. Evolution is not the black and white timeline that the media would have you believe. Humans didn't come from apes, humans and apes descend from a common ancestor millions of years ago.

Time for a history lesson.. primates came from a rat like mammal that flourished after the dinosaurs extinction, leading also to the birds and other reptiles that are still alive today.. but are those the only things that survived?

I doubt it. Considering that even the most extreme extinction events humans can survive (70%+ that humanity will survive being able to reproduce albeit with a genetic bottlenecks) and the fact that reptiles are far more adaptive than we are as humans, and their genetic line has been active much longer than ours (millions of years) i think it would be naive to completely dismiss the possibility that they achieved sentient sapienism long before us. Their devices and their bodies looking very "alien" to us (theyre closer related to reptiles than humans).

They obviously have no desire to "kill" us.. though that could be synonymous with our lack of desire to "kill" cows. They've known of us for hundreds of thousands of years, probably influenced our evolution as well(seeds for religion come to mind), though most of them are actually quite indifferent to humans in general.

The reptilian super terrestrial (probably what people perceive as the greys) are likely not the only ones here, but they seem to be the most dominant. The others unaware of each other or also as indifferent.

Where are they located? Thats the easy part. They're in the ocean. You ever hear about high incidents of Soviet uso's?(unidentified submerged objects) the ocean is so vast, weve only explored 5% maybe.. and if we ever found their colonies we either wouldn't know thats what it is or they wouldn't let us tell anyone.. (Bermuda triangle comes to mind)
Are they aggressive? I doubt it. But they obviously have some kind of influence on us, for better or worse..
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The bolded sections are where you jump the shark
 
BStrong said:
The bolded sections are where you jump the shark
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Considering that they now can conclusively detect gravitational waves, finding out their location shouldn't be difficult, assuming they really do exist. A big dense gravitational mass in the ocean would stand out quite similar to a sore thumb, so at least this question can be answered sooner rather than later.
 
sonjouten said:
Considering that they now can conclusively detect gravitational waves, finding out their ( aliens) location shouldn't be difficult, assuming they really do exist.
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What is the mass of these aliens compared to sea water?

Did "Ra the alien" channelled by Carla Ruekert, whilst on LSD, give you this information in her book, "The Law of One"?:D

Describe to us, using your "knowledge of science", how such a detection device would work. :D

You sincerely believe that "Ra, the alien" transported President Eisenhower, to another galaxy in 1954, for a talk about tarot cards. Wouldn't that technology avoid gravitational waves? :eye-poppi
 

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abaddon said:
Pics or it didn't happen.
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sonjouten said:
Considering that they now can conclusively detect gravitational waves, finding out their location shouldn't be difficult, assuming they really do exist. A big dense gravitational mass in the ocean would stand out quite similar to a sore thumb, so at least this question can be answered sooner rather than later.
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And of course, you ignore the fact that a detector that took literally decades to be developed, that detects minute effects of gravity from sources ridiculously far from Earth, that have evaded detection for all those decades, would have had any such signals completely swamped by any source of gravity waves that are sitting in the Earth's oceans.

Science works as a whole, you know. Change any one thing, and it produces changes in everything else. So now you have to explain why that "sore thumb" hasn't stuck out before now.

And while you're at it, don't forget (or, really, learn just now) that detectors for variations in the Earth's gravity have been used for many years to prospect for things like oil. You also need to explain why those detectors have never found your lizard not-aliens.
 
LIGO wouldn't help, but the gravity mapping that's already been done would have shown any irregularities.

And it didnt.
Next?
 
ShadowSot said:
No, it isnt.
So far your argument has been entirely you speculating off of your own "common sense."
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I have unusually premium grade upper class sense and with it I can see the rightness of proper common sense and wrongness of completely wrong exotic nonsense. Our good friend has been flung off the bridge of sense by the common people and I suspect an uncommonly loud "SMACK" in a few more hundred posts.....
 
sonjouten said:
like i said, i think theyre rather indifferent to us in general. interacting with humans relatively infrequently. the fact is evolution allowed for one grandfather to give birth to many variations of species, (humans and a common rat can seem vastly different, yet they all share a common grandfather millions of years ago.) To think the same couldnt be said about a gecko to a *reptiloid is rather narcissistic and close-minded. especially if you have any kind of belief in cryptozoology. Hate to break it to everyone but theres nothing special about humanity.
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Hang on, I'm confused. Whose grandfathers are giving birth? Is it reptiloid grandfathers or mammal grandfathers?
 
Stuart said:
Are these what we are talking about? Curious minds want to know.
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Don't be silly, they're not reptiles at all. They're ducks, which everybody knows has the same density as water. This explains why the deep flocks haven't been detected thus far.
 
sonjouten said:
That's about like saying "common sense is always right"
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You can make a worthwhile case your way , imo , by concentrating on testimony and principally from so called whistle blowers .Essentially ex military , Black Ops personnel and several ex CIA .
As a general example , I believe 500 witnesses were used in the Disclosure Project and ex US astronauts plus an ex Canadian Defence Secretary were interesting participants . Didn't they present to a Congressional select committee over a decade ago , under the leadership of Doctor Stephen Greer ?
My view is that if requested it is best to present a case and then disappear . It saves time , energy and patience from having to deal with the large majority ( I believe ) who are not interested in real discussion , but delight in an opportunity to be dismissive , from flip remarks to outright nastiness .Many have a mainstream world view which they need to hold on to for a variety of reasons .
I have never fully understood why so many appear to think that publicly wandering from the intellectual "straight and narrow" has to be avoided at all cost . To me , that is similar to never eating a cream cake because you are on a constant diet .
Incidentally I once had a lovely tenant in one of my properties who was -- he said - a hybrid .His dear mum had been an alien abductee . All splendid stuff and he was most definitely unusual . Probably a Forum member by now .
 
fromdownunder said:
You don't know what you are talking about.


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Norm
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Hah... Nice try. That's just an Australian inland mosquito photoshopped to have its other legs removed.
 
sonjouten said:
and yet you are stating that there is no mass there,
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Because a boundary does not have mass.

sonjouten said:
when in fact as far as science is concerned there is. you're the one arguing earthly political boundaries to define a physical space billions of miles away,
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WTF? Politics?

sonjouten said:
but im the irrational one. yep sure am.
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I shall defer to your judgement on that matter.

sonjouten said:
is the event horizon on earth devoid of mass?
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Yep. The event horizon is simply a demarcation between two different sets of conditions. By definition it cannot have mass.

sonjouten said:
no there's an atmosphere.
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What does that have to do with anything?

sonjouten said:
is the event horizon on the sun devoid of mass, no definitely not. yet you believe that the event horizon on a black hole is devoid of mass? honestly that sounds kinda.. racist..
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Sorry, but you are doing nothing more than asking what mass your height has. If you are unable to figure out why that is utter baloney I cannot help you.
 
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