it's mostly just shock that it hasnt been considered more seriously , when you consider the beliefs that alot of people actually have that contain substantially less evidence. it's not like i havent considered that it was wrong, but at the same time i know how resilient life is, and any species that survives an extinction level event is surely to change from it, as our "rat ancestors" did, so surely did other species of terrestrial animals.
The real alien conspiracy
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abaddon
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I don't think that means what you think it means.
I think you will find that most here are quite capable of thinking the unthinkable, however...
No it really isn't. And...
I think you will find that the vast majority of members here have contemplated such ideas.
It wasn't hard for you at all. You wanted it.
Only if you make that choice to be that lazy. Discovering reality takes at least some effort. It would appear that you have simply started with a conclusion and are attempting to make everything fit into that conclusion. This is horse before cart territory.
Pup
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They're not reptiles. Animal Planet has a good documentary on this: http://www.animalplanet.com/tv-shows/mermaids/videos/mermaids/
Horatius
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Yeah. That seems to be a common failing with regards to his links.
Indeed. Take a look at the "Movies, TV, Music, Computer Gaming, and other Entertainment" sub-forum, and how many threads we've had dedicated to all sorts of fantasy and science fiction, in all media, and you'll see quite a few of us are quite involved in thinking about weird ****.
This difference is, we are capable of thinking about it with having to assume it's true.
Axxman300
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I made this in Photoshop class last year because I knew it would eventually end up on this board.
So let me recap, UFOs are crewed by a reptile race that evolved concurrently with ours.
It might be plausible if the science was better. Dinosaurs suffered 3 extinctions which were total. There are huge gaps of time in between Epochs, it's only been 65 million years since T-Rex and his Cretaceous buddies expired. That's not a long time.
The ocean itself is not reptile friendly. The other problem with your evolution theory is that it's not consistent with the reptiles that have evolved to live in the ocean. Primates use tools, we see this more and more, and it makes them consistent with our evolutionary tree, as is their social structures.
Face it, on this board, poo is flung as frequently as it is in the jungles.
I dont think they originally evolved in the ocean, they were likely land dwellers (like whales, dolphins) and thought itd be best to go back to the ocean for mobility and to make it less likely to negatively impact the environment (a compressed area of space with a closed off environment compared to the atmosphere outside of it, able to sustain the size of a city in the mass of a matchbox, similar to the conditions directly outside the event horizon of a black hole. Like a biodome submarine with altered spacial dimensions, like a "reverse planet." Also like i said such structures are at least very possible according to relativity (that gravity is a distortion of space time), and also would explain the fermi paradox quite well (all their structures are simply too small for us to see)
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A problem too is the assumption that evolution will naturally lead to intelligence and sentience. There is no reason to make that assumption. There no linear progress in evolution.
As for a super advanced culture, every civilization leaves traces of their existence, much more than just supposed out of place artifacts.
We have camp sites that our early ancestors made that are still preserved and recognizable. We can find the mines, their quarries, their trash, and so on.
Nothing for any of these super societies.
As for a super advanced culture, every civilization leaves traces of their existence, much more than just supposed out of place artifacts.
We have camp sites that our early ancestors made that are still preserved and recognizable. We can find the mines, their quarries, their trash, and so on.
Nothing for any of these super societies.
wouldnt it just mostly be buried in the fossil record anyways? plate tectonics have pretty much made it almost impossible to discover any ancient ruins beyond a few million years unless you know exactly where to look. There's oil under antarctica, and we know where oil came from, so theres a good chance for evidence of other forms of life there as well. My belief that they gained intelligence mostly due to their motivation to do so after surviving the k-t extinction. Anytime a life form almost dies on this planet it gains knowledge from it, and gets stronger for it.
JayUtah
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Earlier I was not wont to pass judgment. Now I am. Yours is nothing but a smug claim to superiority. If you have no evidence, then say so, take your lumps and leave.
Asking you to listen to what people are saying to you is not, in any way, argumentum ad populum. It is instead a reasonably expected component of intelligent, rational discussion. You say you have a novel explanation for UFOs. In fact you do not; I have heard it several times. You say the objection to your claims derives from a widespread desire to believe that UFOs must be extraterrestrial in origin. Here and now objection to your claims derives from your inability to provide evidence for it. Skeptics generally reject the extraterrestrial hypothesis as well for UFOs, so you'll find no traction here for your presumption.
Gord_in_Toronto
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im sure the same thing was said before aviation was perfected.You can flap your arms all you want but you'll never fly.
The Greater Fool
Illuminator
Other things that can't be disproven:
Super-Intelligent ants (Phase IV anyone?);
Invisible Rainbow Colored Unicorns;
Invisible Dragons;
Invisible Anythings (to save time);
Gods (even visible ones, so there!);
Bigfoot (-feet? -foots?)
A decent Fantasy TV Series (ETA: is possible);
Aliens (Real Aliens, not half arsed terrestrial things with the same attributes);
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The Greater Fool
Illuminator
oddly... it's still true.
Yes of course it is, which is why humanity never learned to fly.
Alphaba
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No human has seen or can see such advanced species, alien or not, because it fatally happen to them -and rather sooner than later if they already are on Earth- a variant of what the greatest exocosmohistorian of the galaxy narrated about the G'Gugvuntts and the Vl'hurgs:
Douglas Adams said:
A whole civilization accidentally swallowed by a small shoal of fish... An entire city block gobbled by a barnacle...
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No it isn't. It's nothing like that. All it's saying is that you need to provide evidence, which is a glaring omission from this thread so far. You are arguing by assertion.
The Greater Fool
Illuminator
Are you sure it isn't Aerodynamics?
JayUtah
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Aviation succeeded because it relied upon evidence, and even corrected that evidence by experimentation when it failed to predict reality.
Aviation did not succeed, and has still not been attained, by flapping one's arms as you are doing. If you want to be respected as a pioneer, do the things that pioneers actually do. Do not demand respect before you have earned it.
Not really, plenty of fossils, fossil track ways, coprolites, and sedimentary layers. Things like plastics and ceramics never really go away.
You mentioned Antartica. As it happens there is a good amount of palentological work being done.
Yet no evidence of your reptillians.
Your last statement is simply not true.