Merged New telepathy test: which number did I write ?

[Michel H]

Is there something special in this thread? It seems mostly: pathological irrational belief meets skepticism.
There are many threads here containing the exact same thing.

But there is only one (except for my other thread) containing this:

I am hearing Michel H's thoughts. All of them.
...

Truly unique

 

[Daylightstar]

Michel H, was the physical problem you went to hospital for related to the voices you hear?

 

[Daylightstar]

But there is only one (except for my other thread) containing this:

Truly unique

Not really unique. Oftentimes, pathological irrational belief meets mockery and/or sarcasm.
Happens quite often actually.

 

[Michel H]

... You have personal problems for which you run away.

"for which you run away", or "from which you run away"?

 

[abaddon]

Yes of course, but that's not what "special" generally means.

Once again entirely missing context.

I am worried that conservative people impose more and more their will in my threads,

This is not "your" thread. It wholly and entirely belongs to the ISF forevermore as specified in the MA which you clearly did not read but agreed to anyway not having read it.

by "urging other people to not participate in this bad test (sic)", with some support from the moderating team.

That urging is borne of bitter experience with your very own actions over years and a genuine concern that you are neglecting your illness.

The end result of that kind of "urging" might well be that I am no longer getting enough answers to do my research, and to do my statistical analyses.

You are not engaged in any research, nor are you performing any valid statistical analysis.

The case of a new instant messaging service is different.

It isn't functionally different in any way.

One reason is that people seem to be generally much more honest on these simple technical things.

It seems that way to you and you alone. And once again you have made the baseless accusation that everyone here hears you thoughts and then lie about it. Stop doing that.

A second reason is that, when you a telepathy test (with a number to guess), you can scientifically figure out whether some telepathy took place by doing a standard statistical analysis on the numerical answers alone.

Yet you always avoid that very statistical analysis by eliminating arbitrarily any answers you do not like. That is not scientific.

And a third reason is that, on this large "skeptical" forum, hostility towards my claims is pretty enormous,

It's a skeptical forum, what did you expect? Nobody here hears your thoughts, so what did you expect?

with people supporting each other,

Including trying to support YOU. Indeed it is out of support that so many have suggested that you seek treatment for your medical condition rather than remaining untreated while chasing some notion of telepathy which does not in reality exist.

so that a "I don't know" answer is not very interesting

Not interesting to you perhaps because it is evidence that you are not telepathic at all and thus you reject it out of hand simply because you do not like it. That is not in any way scientific.

(it might be just related to the place where I am).

Ya think?

 

[abaddon]

"for which you run away", or "from which you run away"?

Both appear applicable.

 

[Michel H]

... Indeed it is out of support that so many have suggested that you seek treatment for your medical condition rather than remaining untreated while chasing some notion of telepathy which does not in reality exist.
...

I suspect I have consulted a psychiatrist much more recently than you or any other poster in this thread, even though you appear to be much more dangerous to society than me, with your mad insistence on trying to impose you lies. But you refuse to consult, even though this might be both useful and necessary.

 

[Daylightstar]

"for which you run away", or "from which you run away"?

Both.

 

[Michel H]

Both.

Hmm I suspect this is "skeptical English"... Beware

 

[abaddon]

I suspect I have consulted a psychiatrist much more recently than you or any other poster in this thread,

It happens that the difference is that I have never needed one.

even though you appear to be much more dangerous to society than me,

Justify that scurrilous and blatant insult.

with your mad insistence on trying to impose you lies.

Justify that second scurrilous and blatant insult.

But you refuse to consult, even though this might be both useful and necessary.

Consult whom and for what? Projection is a symptom of your self admitted illness. I strongly advise you not to go down the route of threatening anything at all. I strongly advise you to return to treatment.

 

[Daylightstar]

Michel H, they only thing for you to gain from this thread is the advise to resume treatment.

There is nothing else here for you.

 

[abaddon]

Hmm I suspect this is "skeptical English"... Beware

Wrong.

"from which you run away"? Yes, you are running away from taking responsibility for your medical condition. That is a symptom of your declared medical condition.

"for which you run away"? Yes. You are trying to shield your medical condition from any critical examination because you want to keep it. That is also a symptom of your declared medical condition.

Be clear. Nobody here can hear your thoughts. Nobody here bears you any ill will. Everybody here hopes you will get the treatment you require and deserve. Nothing more.

 

[Daylightstar]

Michel H, was the physical problem you went to hospital for related to the voices you hear?

Have you been dangerous to yourself, Michel H?

 

[Michel H]

It happens that the difference is that I have never needed one.



Justify that scurrilous and blatant insult.

Justify that second scurrilous and blatant insult.

Consult whom and for what? Projection is a symptom of your self admitted illness. I strongly advise you not to go down the route of threatening anything at all. I strongly advise you to return to treatment.

I have consulted many psychiatrists in my life. You, none. Don't you think a more balanced approach might be needed?

 

[Daylightstar]

Michel H, you need to face your condition head on. Nothing else is important.
At 57/58 now, you can still have some good (better at least) years.

Don't waste your life.

 

[Daylightstar]

I have consulted many psychiatrists in my life. ...

Have you dismissed all of them?

 

[abaddon]

I have consulted many psychiatrists in my life. You, none. Don't you think a more balanced approach might be needed?

You need them, I do not.

Should I attend my GP because I don't have a cold?

Perhaps I should go to the ER because I have not broken my leg?

By the same token, why would I attend a psychiatrist when I don't have such a problem?

You, on the other hand clearly do have such a problem. We can read it in your post but we do not even need that. You yourself outlined your entire medical history right here on this forum. You told us what was wrong with you, you told us about the episodes with various practitioners, you told us about the episodes with your mother. We didn't guess. We didn't read your mind. You voluntarily typed them right here.

 

[Michel H]

Michel H, you need to face your condition head on. Nothing else is important.
At 57/58 now, you can still have some good (better at least) years.

Don't waste your life.

I think that you are much more in need of a psychiatric consultation than I do, and so is abaddon (this is perhaps related to the large number of psychiatrists I have consulted in my life). Here is what you do. Show a psychiatrist some of my "typical posts". And show him some of your typical replies; and ask what he thinks. One psychiatrist that I met, and who was not too bad, was Dr. Abuzzahab (although he is probably very old now) http://doctor.webmd.com/doctor/faruk-abuzzahab-sr-md-a34a3df2-91ca-475c-aa77-88b82325c8cb-overview.

 

[abaddon]

I think that you are much more in need of a psychiatric consultation than I do, and so is abaddon (this is perhaps related to the large number of psychiatrists I have consulted in my life).

I have consulted none. Ever. Now ask yourself the obvious question. Are you projecting as is a symptom of your disease? Of course you are. I can tell you for a fact that if I had any inkling that I had a psychiatric issue going on I would be at the doctors so fast your head would spin. The fact is that I do not and have not. Why would I? I am not wandering around the internet claiming that everyone can hear my thoughts and are lying about it, am I?

Here is what you do. Show a psychiatrist some of my "typical posts". And show him some of your typical replies; and ask what he thinks.

Why would anyone do that? Why would anyone make that effort? You would simply claim that any such psychiatrist was hearing your thoughts and lying about it.

Besides which, I know none, so I can't.

One psychiatrist that I met, and who was not too bad, was Dr. Abuzzahab (although he is probably very old now) http://doctor.webmd.com/doctor/faruk-abuzzahab-sr-md-a34a3df2-91ca-475c-aa77-88b82325c8cb-overview.

That means really nothing. You have told us you are out of any treatment for your illness for years. Untreated illnesses generally do not have happy resolutions. It is the general desire here that you do have a happy resolution which makes us urge you to resume treatment.

 

[Daylightstar]

I think that you are much more in need of a psychiatric consultation than I do, and so is abaddon (this is perhaps related to the large number of psychiatrists I have consulted in my life). Here is what you do. Show a psychiatrist some of my "typical posts". And show him some of your typical replies; and ask what he thinks. One psychiatrist that I met, and who was not too bad, was Dr. Abuzzahab (although he is probably very old now) http://doctor.webmd.com/doctor/faruk-abuzzahab-sr-md-a34a3df2-91ca-475c-aa77-88b82325c8cb-overview.

Why did you see a large number of psychiatrists?
Have you dismissed all of those 'large number of psychiatrists'?