Poll: Are you happy with Windows 10?

[Rrose Selavy]

I don't have an "All Apps" menu, but I do have an "All Programs" menu.

As an aside, does anyone remember when they started calling Programs "Apps" or why?

Since 1985, if not earlier.

http://www.osnews.com/story/24882/The_History_of_App_and_the_Demise_of_the_Programmer

 

[Delvo]

It starts at level Incinerate-My-Retinas, and now there's no response when I hit the "dimmer" button, not even the little corner icon popping up to show me what level it's at. So I dig up the settings/control/whatevertheycallitnow thing with the on-screen slider to change brightness without the keyboard's brightness button... and it shows that I'm supposedly already at a dim setting! And then moving the slider doesn't snap it out of it; it has no effect at all. The only thing that DOES help is plugging in the recharger, which brings it down to the minimum, the last setting I was able to put it on back when it actually accepted brightness adjustments. Fortunately, unplugging it then doesn't make it jump back up to IMR, so I can work unplugged after doing this, but this method of dealing with the screen brightness problem means I can't turn it back up later if I want for videos, either slightly or all the way.

This one is practically solved. Whatever happened with the brightness control, it was cleared by a reboot. I just didn't know that it would do that at first because it was merely "sleeping" when it was supposed to be turning off, for several days. When I forced a reboot, I got my brightness controls back. And this time it even took my setting about when to turn off instead of just sleeping.

No more NotePad.

Notepad is in the All Apps menu, under Windows Accessories.

Which is where it's been for as many version of Windows back as I can easily remember.

"Accessories" was never in "All Programs" before. It was completely separate from it and far above it. That higher position was at first occupied in W10 by some useless crap like "Most Recent" and "Most Used" or "Most Popular" or whatever, which, fortunately, were easy to purge.

And that's not to mention the annoyances that are really about the hardware it came in, which I know aren't Windows's fault.

I want my last computer back.

Even if there were no software issues (and several of the ones I mentioned above are solved now, although the Move Maker one isn't), the annoying physical design of the machine would still make this the first time I've had a computer that's worse than the one before.

 

[CelticRose]

What does "UAC" stand for?

User Account Control. That's the pop-up that asks you if you really want to allow something to make changes to your computer. Power users find it annoying, but users like myself find it useful for stopping malware or just as a warning that what we're trying to do may have consequences.

Stupid pop-up and even a loud noisy little jingle when I plug in headphones, to "inform" me that I just plugged in headphones!?! (Then the same thing when unplugging)

I get that on my Android devices. I've never understood the purpose of notifying me that I did something when it takes me physical effort to do said thing and unless I'm sleepwalking I'm not likely to do it without noticing. I haven't seen it on Windows 10, but then I plug my headphones into a jack on the external speakers rather than into the audio jack on my laptop.

No more Minesweeper, Spider Solitaire, or FreeCell, apparently. I thought I found them in a group as a single program with "solitaire" in its name, but now it's gone. The "games" thing is fully of cellphonish stuff I have no interest in.

Spider Solitaire and FreeCell are in the Microsoft Solitaire Collection. Minesweeper is available for free in the Windows Store, but you'll need a Microsoft account.

No more decent image viewer; now it's something with a bunch of other junk crammed in at the top & bottom of the screen so whatever image it's supposed to show me is tiny and partially darkened by something shadowy overlapping it.

If you're talking about the Photos app, click on the image and the menu bar will disappear and you can see the whole image. Clicking again will bring the menu bar back.

Then there's the Start Menu... gewd gawd, the Start Menu. It insists on putting my programs as big picture boxes instead of a single-column list of names, and putting those all off to the right so the first column can be wasted on crap I don't want to see.

Right-click on each of the "picture boxes" (they're called tiles) and you'll get an option to unpin from Start. Unpin all of them, and then you can drag the sides of the Start menu to resize it -- up to a point.

And not only does that take away the option of jumping to the program I want by typing a letter, but it also doesn't do that anymore even in the "all programs" list, which IS still text in a single column at the left just like my pinned programs were before, so there's no reason why it wouldn't work there!

In the All Apps list, click on any of the single letters that head each alphabetized groups of programs. You'll get an alphabet menu that will take you to the section that starts with a particular letter.

Also, you should have a Search Windows box (or an icon) next to the Start menu icon. You can use that to search for an individual program.

 

[Rrose Selavy]

I've never understood the purpose of notifying me that I did something when it takes me physical effort to do said thing and unless I'm sleepwalking I'm not likely to do it without noticing. I haven't seen it on Windows 10, but then I plug my headphones into a jack on the external speakers rather than into the audio jack on my laptop

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Actually when on a PC you've had issues with the front audio case connectors especially not working properly (my last two PCs were always so unreliable with this that I preferred to use a USB headset for an easier life) the reassurance that Windows at least has detected that you've inserted a mic or headphone , can be helpful. It at least confirmed some kind of connection was detected and the type expected , eg in case you inserted a mic into the headphone output or vice versa. Although whether the mike or headphone worked after correctly being inserted is another matter.

 

[paulhutch]

Even if there were no software issues (and several of the ones I mentioned above are solved now, although the Move Maker one isn't),

The download link for Movie Maker from Microsoft that I posted in the thread where you asked didn't work for you?

 

[El Greco]

The more I work with 10, the more appalling I find it. It is the work of morons when they change nice UI elements just for the sake of change. Just moving around the options and settings and making pointless design changes is bad enough, but when they actually *remove* useful features, they deserve to be shot. Wasn't it a nice feature that the total file size would appear on the status bar when you selected a folder ? Wasn't it useful that you could create a new text file from the File menu of the Explorer or with an option in the context menu ? Why do I have to do extra work or use 3rd party apps to bring back this basic functionality ? Windows 8 had an easy way of selecting two different wallpapers for dual monitors. Now it's become buggy and obscure. The UAC system is worse than ever, if you want to share a drive in your home network you have to change a lot of sharing AND security permissions.

I can't even begin to describe the hideous "Windows Update Delivery Optimisation" (of which I'm sure most people have no idea) or the forced "upgrades".

 

[Delvo]

The download link for Movie Maker from Microsoft that I posted in the thread where you asked didn't work for you?

It downloaded a file which did nothing at all.

 

[grmcdorman]

Classic Shell, www.classicshell.net, includes an Explorer add-in that returns the file-size in the status bar. It's free for both personal and commercial use. It can also change the Start menu to a more traditional form.

 

[Gawdzilla Sama]

I can't even begin to describe the hideous "Windows Update Delivery Optimisation" (of which I'm sure most people have no idea) or the forced "upgrades".

You need those upgrades, they fix mistakes MS has made in the code. They could just label them "**** up repairs", but that wouldn't be cool, now would it?

 

[paulhutch]

It downloaded a file which did nothing at all.

Yes it should download the installer named wlsetup-web.exe. Simply downloading an installer usually does nothing by itself.

I'll be doing this when I setup the Win10 PCs I got my brother and sister for Christmas. If I discover anything helpful I'll post about it.

 

[El Greco]

You need those upgrades, they fix mistakes MS has made in the code. They could just label them "**** up repairs", but that wouldn't be cool, now would it?

In previous Windows versions I had the habit of waiting for a couple of months before installing the updates. And this has indeed saved me from much trouble that early adopters had to face. Not to mention that some updates were simply not working with various setups and I had to completely deactivate them (I remember some video drivers that wouldn't work with my laptop). I'd like to continue this practice but now I can't. Besides that, it appears that some "updates" have changed user settings or even uninstalled user-installed programs. I don't really feel confident that MS won't screw up some update and me along the way.

 

[Delvo]

Yes it should download the installer named wlsetup-web.exe. Simply downloading an installer usually does nothing by itself.

You mean you think I didn't try running it? Holy wow... Yes, I tried running it. Nothing happened. It wouldn't run. It was like there was no file there at all.

 

[rjh01]

<snip>Wasn't it a nice feature that the total file size would appear on the status bar when you selected a folder? <snip>

I have windows 10. When I put my cursor above a file a small box opens giving me file size and date modified. Click on it and the status bar gives me these details. If I highlight several items at once then I get told the number and total size of the files. I have not added on anything to make Windows 10 'better'.

 

[LongFuzzy]

I upgraded my laptop, no problems. I upgraded my wife's touch screen, no support for the TV turner card. Had to get 3rd party program. When her machine is idle, the CPU fan speeds up. Found out the background task "photos" was running while idle. Turned that off, system is OK now. Upgraded my sons desktop. Upgrade OK, but then upgraded his mother board. New board does not support IDE (SATA only) so I had to buy a SATA CD drive to install the original Windows 7, then upgrade back to Windows 10. (The original OS was on the IDE drive.) One problem is that I do not have the KEY for Windows 10. So if I have a disk die, or have to reinstall for any reason, I must reload the original OS, then use the upgrade thumb drive I created when I upgraded the machines to get back to Windows 10.

 

[rjh01]

I upgraded my laptop, no problems. I upgraded my wife's touch screen, no support for the TV turner card. Had to get 3rd party program. <snip>

One unresolved problem for me is that the TV tuner does not work. What one do you have and what product did you buy to make it work? I have Winfast. My issue is that the driver is not compatible with Windows 10. Have looked on the Internet and others have had the same problem and no solution has been found.

 

[El Greco]

I have windows 10. When I put my cursor above a file a small box opens giving me file size and date modified. Click on it and the status bar gives me these details. If I highlight several items at once then I get told the number and total size of the files. I have not added on anything to make Windows 10 'better'.

In the olden days, when you clicked on a folder on the left pane, the status bar would magically show the number of files in that folder and their total size, as well as the free space in that drive. You didn't have to select anything. Of course that was a luxury we didn't actually need and it made us all lazy and indolent.

 

[Gawdzilla Sama]

I contacted the company and my most important software will run on Windows 10. So I guess the inevitable will happen sooner than later.

 

[El Greco]

And since I've been talking mostly about negatives, I think it's in order to say something good: It's spiffy and lightweight and it runs perfectly well on older machines, even weak tablets.

 

[Gawdzilla Sama]

And since I've been talking mostly about negatives, I think it's in order to say something good: It's spiffy and lightweight and it runs perfectly well on older machines, even weak tablets.

I have a netbook waiting the trials.

 

[Damien Evans]

I upgraded my laptop, no problems. I upgraded my wife's touch screen, no support for the TV turner card. Had to get 3rd party program. When her machine is idle, the CPU fan speeds up. Found out the background task "photos" was running while idle. Turned that off, system is OK now. Upgraded my sons desktop. Upgrade OK, but then upgraded his mother board. New board does not support IDE (SATA only) so I had to buy a SATA CD drive to install the original Windows 7, then upgrade back to Windows 10. (The original OS was on the IDE drive.) One problem is that I do not have the KEY for Windows 10. So if I have a disk die, or have to reinstall for any reason, I must reload the original OS, then use the upgrade thumb drive I created when I upgraded the machines to get back to Windows 10.

That shouldn't be a problem. You can download a windows 10 installer from microsoft and it remembers your key if you're reinstalling.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-au/software-download/windows10