Near Death and Out of Body Experiences

Without objective evidence for the existence of non physical beings the default position is that they do not exist.

Burdon of proof remains on the claimants.

I refuse to discuss anything with a biscuit.....
 
Originally Posted by John Jones View Post
1. Hallucinating
2. Delusional
3. Mistaken
4. Lying
5. Writing fiction
6. Psychotic
7. Dreaming

Take your pick
8. Looking to make a profit

those are what skeptics and scientists say when they have no explanations...
 
those are what skeptics and scientists say when they have no explanations...
A list of 8 plausible explanations means they have at least 8 plausible explanations.

evidence?
As has been pointed out, you're the one claiming that there is a supernatural explanation for something that can easily be explained without recourse to the supernatural, so you're the one who needs to produce some evidence.
 
Originally Posted by John Jones View Post
1. Hallucinating
2. Delusional
3. Mistaken
4. Lying
5. Writing fiction
6. Psychotic
7. Dreaming

Take your pick

those are what skeptics and scientists say when they have no explanations...

That's because each one of them is more plausible than the superstitions you have offered in the absence of explanations.
 
sorry for accepting a non-science explanation....I am not a fundamentalist science fan and do not worship at the altar of ''I am a scientist and know what is real and what is not real".......

That's not the point.

The point is you don't even consider a prosaic explanation.

Oh, and the whole "worship at the altar" thing? That's you, not us. We don't do belief here. People here try not to believe anything, from anyone, unless there is supporting evidence. If top scientists say something, the proper sceptic will look for the supporting evidence rather than automatically accepting what the scientist said.
 
Originally Posted by John Jones View Post
1. Hallucinating
2. Delusional
3. Mistaken
4. Lying
5. Writing fiction
6. Psychotic
7. Dreaming

Take your pick

those are what skeptics and scientists say when they have no explanations...

We need to clear something up here.
What do you think the word 'explanation' means?
You appear to have your own, unique definition, but it's not apparent what that definition is.
 
Originally Posted by John Jones View Post
1. Hallucinating
2. Delusional
3. Mistaken
4. Lying
5. Writing fiction
6. Psychotic
7. Dreaming

Take your pick

those are what skeptics and scientists say when they have no explanations...

Ummmmm all of those are explanations.....:boggled:
 
That's not the point.

The point is you don't even consider a prosaic explanation.

Oh, and the whole "worship at the altar" thing? That's you, not us. We don't do belief here. People here try not to believe anything, from anyone, unless there is supporting evidence. If top scientists say something, the proper sceptic will look for the supporting evidence rather than automatically accepting what the scientist said.

yes....they will delay acceptance of the scientists' statement...you certainly do have beliefs...fundamentalist science beliefs and will reject anything that doesn't fit into those beliefs...as all of you are showing....
 
yes....they will delay acceptance of the scientists' statement...you certainly do have beliefs...fundamentalist science beliefs and will reject anything that doesn't fit into those beliefs...as all of you are showing....

Perhaps you should better post with your contact lenses in .....
 
yes....they will delay acceptance of the scientists' statement...you certainly do have beliefs...fundamentalist science beliefs and will reject anything that doesn't fit into those beliefs...as all of you are showing....

Edit: NM

I don't even know what a fundamentalist scientist is.
 
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