School shooting near Seattle.

One of my co-workers has a child in that school. I'll probably hear more news about this event on Monday that has local spin instead of what the national media provides. :(

Ranb
 
It's unclear if arming students will reduce casualties will reduce casualties, but it would definitely make things more interesting.

If all of the other students were armed, the one person would not have pulled the gun out for fear of being gunned down by the rest.......
 
**** happens. Who cares about dead kids? Someone has to pay that price for freedom. And upon this news, the gun fetishists will stroke their guns, oblivious and happy, and shower us with stories of cars, pools, knives, bleach, etc.

Nothing changes.
 
I'm reluctant to say the following in this particular thread because of the very real tragedy, but because of comments such as the ones above, I'm going to anyway.

The very first time I ever shot a gun was in one of my high school classes. "How difficult could it be?" I thought. So, I just pointed and shot and was excited to get my very first target, no problem! Well, at least there was no problem in hitting the moving target. Unfortunately, due to it being my first time shooting, I didn't hold the butt of the gun stock firmly enough against my shoulder, and so I got a pretty bad kick back.

I think it was because of that and my then hurting shoulder that I was a bit distracted and so missed my second target, which of course I felt a bit embarrassed about. I regained my composure, however, and I believe I went on to hit my next three shots in a row getting, if I remember correctly, a total of four out of the five. I then handed off the shotgun to a fellow student for him to take his turn.

You know, I don't really remember whether it was the teacher's gun that we used or whether the school provided it. I think, though, it might have been the teacher's. I just don't remember for sure. I do remember, though, that we didn't actually have a gun range or anything like that at my school, so our teacher just took us out somewhere into the countryside where we did our skeet shooting.

I went to a public school that was in the middle of the city, though. People who went to private schools may have had a different sort of educational experience. Sometimes, if not often, they could be religious schools, so I suspect some might have even had a bias against guns and so might not have provided a full and proper education.

It was a "hunting and boating safety" class that I was taking, btw.

:boxedin:
 
The shooter, who as usual turned the gun on himself was a freshman who was upset about a breakup with his girlfriend. We're in central Washington for a funeral and learned that the grandson of one of my wife's cousins-in-law was right next to the shooting. The local hospital has actually been having some difficulty identifying a couple of the survivors, who have head wounds. Very, very, sad. So you can expect some of the usual suspects to be making political hay out of it any minute.
 
The question after all of these school shootings is how did the shooter get a gun? Is it legal for kids under 18 to own them? And if not, then do the parents who let their teen have easy access to a gun deserve some jail time for their part in the death and maiming of innocent kids? Perhaps if the parents got a good 20 year stretch, other parents may think twice about leaving their guns lying around where anyone can grab them.
 
Some news sources are reporting bullying (by his friends) as a cause.

Ranb
 
The question after all of these school shootings is how did the shooter get a gun?
Going to have to wait a while for that.
Is it legal for kids under 18 to own them?
Of course not. Handguns anyway.
And if not, then do the parents who let their teen have easy access to a gun deserve some jail time for their part in the death and maiming of innocent kids?
Democrats in WA blocked a bill that would have done that. It was limited to persons who failed to secure a firearm which was then used in a crime. I think WA RCW's already have that covered though.
Perhaps if the parents got a good 20 year stretch, other parents may think twice about leaving their guns lying around where anyone can grab them.
Probably not. The kind of people who won't keep their guns secure will not be deterred by that law in my opinion.

Ranb
 
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Going to have to wait a while for that.

Of course not.

Democrats in WA blocked a bill that would have done that. It was limited to persons who failed to secure a firearm which was then used in a crime. I think WA RCW's already have that covered though.

Probably not. The kind of people who won't keep their guns secure will not be deterred by that law in my opinion.

Ranb

We should give it a try. Next question is: do they have other kids we should be on the lookout for?
 
The gun belonged to the shooter's father according to CNN.

The gun used in the shooting has been traced to Fryberg's father, a law enforcement source with knowledge of the investigation told CNN. It is a "high capacity" weapon but did not have an extended magazine, the source said on condition of anonymity. The source said investigators are searching the family home.
 
When I was a teenager, I knew fellow teens who owned their own guns.

Apparently, even currently there is no federal law limiting the age of ownership of long guns, and according to the following article, 30 U.S. states allow children to own guns with many without any minimum age limit:

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This, of course, does not apply to handguns.
 
It didn't take the WAGR very long to try to capitalize on this latest shooting. I got yet another (mass) e-mail from them appealing to emotion.

info@wagunresponsibility.org
Randy --

We are heartbroken that gun violence has once again touched a Washington school. Our thoughts and prayers are with the victims and their families, everyone at Marysville-Pilchuck High School, and the Marysville community.

While the facts of today's shooting are still unclear, we do know that incidents like these are examples of the gun violence that's all too frequent in our state. It is up to all of us to come together and work to reduce gun violence.

Cheryl Stumbo
Sponsor of Initiative 594
Jewish Federation Survivor
While they might be heart broken, they have clearly demonstrated their refusal to "come together" with anyone in the WA gun owning community to craft a bill that has a good chance of passage. Like Feinstein did back in 2013, they have loaded down their background check bill with too much crap. They could have written a bill that is simply for checks on gun sales as Seattle Mayor Ed (no 4th amendment rights for you) Murray claims. Instead they want control of nearly every gun transfer that a WA resident could be involved in right down to merely handing a gun to a friend at a rifle range to briefly examine or shoot while the owner supervises.

Ranb
 

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