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[Merged] General Criticism of Islam/Islamophobia Topics

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TubbaBlubba said:
You, of course, have quotations in full context to back this up, from who I suppose are F! and Gudrun Schyman.
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Here is the speech by Gudrun Schyman at a party congress 2002. It is auto translated by chrome, and the hilite is mine.

"The oppression that goes deeper into the body and identity than anything else; it older than the class which consisted of class societies convulsions, the oppression that shaped and influenced every class and adapted it to their conditions: the oppression of women. It takes many forms. The discrimination and the violation will look different depending on where we are. But it's the same standard, the same structure, the same pattern is repeated as well in Afghanistan under the Taliban as here in Sweden."
 
A'isha said:
Radical Eurofeminists love Islam, doncha know.
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The left in Sweden have a problem though. They are extremely afraid of being racist, colonialist or culturally arrogant. So much so, that they tend to defend things in Islamic countries that they would go ballistic by if it happened in a white Christian country. They can tie them self into interesting knots sometimes. It is the same phenomenon, I think, that many islamophobes show. They are all for feminism in the Muslim world, but I am convinced that most of them are hostile to feminism at home.
 
hgus said:
Here is the speech by Gudrun Schyman at a party congress 2002. It is auto translated by chrome, and the hilite is mine.

"The oppression that goes deeper into the body and identity than anything else; it older than the class which consisted of class societies convulsions, the oppression that shaped and influenced every class and adapted it to their conditions: the oppression of women. It takes many forms. The discrimination and the violation will look different depending on where we are. But it's the same standard, the same structure, the same pattern is repeated as well in Afghanistan under the Taliban as here in Sweden."
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So, once again HF liberally misinterpreted someone´s statements to fit his world-view.

Why am I not surprised?
 
Chaos said:
So, once again HF liberally misinterpreted someone´s statements to fit his world-view.

Why am I not surprised?
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It was as much a misrepresentation as my claim about your yellow badges were. That is, not at all.
 
Humes fork said:
Note to my detractors: I don't view all Muslims as extremists, far from it! However, Islamic theology certainly leads in a specific direction. While it might be true that most Muslims prefer a modern life, those who really take the religion seriously are in risk of becoming Jihadists. Who do you think would win a theological debate between a "moderate Muslim" and Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi?
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No comment on this yet? It addresses many of the false allegations made against me.
 
Chaos said:
So, once again HF liberally misinterpreted someone´s statements to fit his world-view.

Why am I not surprised?
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More or less so. HF could be excused by the fact that this particular speech was often interpreted as he did. I to thought so at the time, and I still find it tasteless, but she is a former communist and a very radical feminist so I tend to disagree with her.
 
Humes fork said:
No comment on this yet? It addresses many of the false allegations made against me.
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What's there to comment on? It certainly confirms the absolutely true statement (not "allegation") that, despite your assurances that you understand that not all Muslims are violent jihadist extremists, you absolutely believe that the vast majority of Muslims who aren't violent jihadist extremists are practicing their own religion incorrectly and that if they were good Muslims they'd be violent jihadist extremists too.
 
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Mister Agenda said:
Overreach in either supporting or suppressing religion is a breach of secularism.
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Well, their Islamist buddies probably told them secularism is bad, and to disagree is Islamophobia. Which explains their stance.:rolleyes:
 
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A'isha said:
What's there to comment on? It certainly confirms the absolutely true statement (not "allegation") that, despite your assurances that you understand that not all Muslims are violent jihadist extremists, you absolutely believe that the vast majority of Muslims who aren't violent jihadist extremists are practicing their own religion incorrectly and that if they were good Muslims they'd be violent jihadist extremists too.
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Do you think that you could win a theological debate against Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi?
 
A'isha said:
I have no idea, but I'm pretty sure he's not interested in a theological debate.
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Don't dodge the question! Do you think you could win a theological debate against him? Who of the two of you is better grounded in Islamic theology?
 
Cleon said:
Oh, stop playing coy. You know very well that you, me, and Chaos spend all our weekends at the Al-Qaeda Bar Wa Grill and hanging out on Hamas forums.
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Sorry for not showing up yesterday - I was at a Boko Haram fundraiser.
 
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