Delivered-To:
webmaster@skepticreport.com
Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 23:10:07 -0700 (PDT)
From: joko tri <tl_joko_s@yahoo.com>
Subject: Fwd: RE: yellow bambo challenge
To:
webmaster@skepticreport.com
Note: forwarded message attached.
__________________________________
Do you Yahoo!?
The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search
http://shopping.yahoo.comX-Apparently-To: tl_joko_s@yahoo.com via 66.218.93.153; Sat, 13 Sep 2003 07:01:39 -0700
Return-Path: <randi@randi.org>
Received: from 216.120.225.20 (EHLO relay2.hrnoc.net) (216.120.225.20)
by mta124.mail.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; Sat, 13 Sep 2003 07:01:39 -0700
Received: from mailbox.hrnoc.net ([216.120.225.22])
by relay2.hrnoc.net with esmtp (Exim 4.22)
id 19yAy4-000JEj-R8
for
tl_joko_s@yahoo.com; Sat, 13 Sep 2003 10:01:40 -0400
Received: (qmail 5342 invoked by uid 89); 13 Sep 2003 14:01:38 -0000
Received: from adsl-35-100-128.mia.bellsouth.net (HELO VALUEDB8142DE8) (67.35.100.128)
by mailbox.hrnoc.net with SMTP; 13 Sep 2003 14:01:38 -0000
From: "James Randi" <randi@randi.org>
To: "'joko tri'" <tl_joko_s@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: yellow bambo challenge
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2003 10:01:25 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="Windows-1252"
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165
Importance: Normal
In-Reply-To: <20030913022729.42719.qmail@web41904.mail.yahoo.com>
X-Scan-Signature: 4647a4a7e156b969ab57d1e769bfbdf3
Content-Length: 3191
Joko: Interesting! I'm very much looking forward to hearing from you about
what has taken place! I looked up and saw the full moon, and wondered if the
test would be done, and now you write to tell me that everything is in
place.
Please, be careful, and get a report to me as soon as you can.
It will be very interesting to see what the YB people will put up on their
website after this event! I can guarantee that they will have an entire
mythology developed to explain why Mr. Serengen was struck, and that
explanation will be accepted by their followers!
If there are any newspaper accounts, I hope you will be able to have copies.
James Randi
-----Original Message-----
From: joko tri [mailto:tl_joko_s@yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 10:27 PM
To: James Randi
Subject: RE: yellow bambo challenge
Mr Randi,
I already did their balinese hokey pokey full moon
ceremony. I was surpriseed there was so many people
there.
Anyway you were right they are very cunning. Very
friendly and polite and they seemed to be searching
for excuses to get out of the challenge.
Mr Serengen seems like a very real person but i know
his claims must be untrue.
Well tomorrow is the day of the challenge. I have
everything ready-
camera to video it
my friend from java, mr eco is going to be my witness
there is a journalist who promised to be there
as soon as it is over i will email you and tell you
the results which i am sure will mean i tapped mr
serengen with the bamboo pole.
so i will email you in the next day or so with the
results and then get the video of proof to you as soon
as i can.
Joko Tri
--- James Randi <randi@randi.org> wrote:
> Nothing else, I think, but please be very careful.
>
> These are devious people, and I suspect that they
> don't really want to be
> tested. With that in mind, I suggest that you
> should not drink or eat
> anything they offer you, in case they put a
> psychedelic substance in there.
> Just a precaution.
>
> They will be very difficult, and very cunning. They
> will try to "win" you
> with smiles and pleasant talk, but don't be
> deceived. If fact, I still
> doubt that any test will really take place. I think
> they'll find ways to
> abort the test.
>
> However, I'm willing to be shown.
>
> PLEASE be sure that you have a witness, preferably a
> media representative.
>
> James Randi
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: joko tri [mailto:tl_joko_s@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 11:27 PM
> To: James Randi
> Subject: RE: yellow bambo challenge
>
> Mr Randi,
>
>
> Okay I think I have everything you wanted me to do.
>
>
> A) I will video it.
>
> B) I have their written agreement as well as
> guarantee
> for my safety.
>
> I am ready to go and do it in September is there
> anything else I need to do to go ahead?
>
>
> Joko
>
>
>
>
> --- James Randi <randi@randi.org> wrote:
> > Yes, video would be necessary, and very valuable.
> >
> > James Randi
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: joko tri [mailto:tl_joko_s@yahoo.com]
> > Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 10:22 PM
> > To: James Randi
> > Subject: RE: yellow bambo challenge
> >
> > Okay Mr Randi I will try to do all that you ask.
> >
> >
> > 1. I will email them saying you will accept me as
> > the
> > attacker and also written assurances for my
> personal
> > safety.
> >
> > 2. I will TRY to get media representative here as
> > well.
> >
> >
> > 3. Should I also video the attacking
> demonstration?
> >
> >
> > Kind Regards,
> >
> >
> > Joko
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- James Randi <randi@randi.org> wrote:
> > > The test does not involve knocking down their
> > > leader, only your NOT being
> > > knocked down "remotely," as they claim they can
> > do.
> > >
> > > Yes, I would accept you as a volunteer on behalf
> > of
> > > the JREF. However, I'm
> > > no longer dealing with them, since they have
> > thrown
> > > so many obstacles in the
> > > way of those who have previously volunteered. I
> > > suggest that you ask them
> > > to provide you with a written guarantee of your
> > > safety against any harm that
> > > might occur which is NOT a result of their
> magical
> > > powers. And I suggest
> > > that you have a media representative present at
> > all
> > > times....
> > >
> > > James Randi
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: joko tri [mailto:tl_joko_s@yahoo.com]
> > > Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 5:37 AM
> > > To:
randi@randi.org
> > > Subject: yellow bambo challenge
> > >
> > > Mr Randi,
> > >
> > >
> > > I live in Indonesia and am a muslim from the
> > island
> > > of
> > > Java. A friend of mine
> > > from Australia told me about your challenge with
> > the
> > > yellow bamboo organisation on bali
> > > and I read on your website where you are looking
> > for
> > > volunteers
> > > in Indonesia to be your representative.
> > >
> > > I also read what they have been saying on the
> > > martial
> > > arts newsgroups. They are obviously
> > > lying and doing everything they can to get
> > publicity
> > > from you without doing the test.
> > > Let me say right now that even though I am
> > > Indonesian
> > > I am extremely skeptical
> > > that their Mr Serengen can knock me down, in
> fact
> > I
> > > am
> > > sure of it.
> > >
> > > I am so sure that I am wiling to go to bali on
> my
> > > own
> > > expenses anytime anywhere
> > > to prove their claims are phony and fraudulent.
> I
> > > will
> > > do all of the things they want like
> > > join their club etc just to prove they are total
> > > baloney.
> > >
> > > I think the next full moon is 12 of august and
> am
> > > volunteering to go there
> > > tomorrow to do their test. I think this element
> of
> > > surprise would make them either
> > > chicken out and not do the test at all or accept
> > me
> > > as
> > > the attacker.
> > >
> > > Can I please be the volunteer for the test as I
> > > would
> > > like to be the one to debunk their fraud?
> > >
> > > If this 12 of august is too soon to organize
> > > everything I can still go
> > > next month also.
> > >
> > > You might know there is a lot of bad energy
> > between
> > > us
> > > muslims and those hindus on bali
> > > so it would also help if you could get them to
> > give
> > > me
> > > a written assurance of
> > > my safety once i knock their leader onto the
> > ground
> > > thus proving what a bunch of frauds they
> > > are.
> > >
> > > Your sincerely,
> > >
> > > Joko Tri Lestari
> > >
> > >
> > > __________________________________
> > > Do you Yahoo!?
> > > The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.
> > >
http://search.yahoo.com
>
=== message truncated ===
__________________________________
Do you Yahoo!?
Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software
http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com
---
Incoming mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (
http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.504 / Virus Database: 302 - Release Date: 7/24/2003
---
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (
http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.504 / Virus Database: 302 - Release Date: 7/24/2003
