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16.5 said:
Dusty? HI! I've told you what it is, and linked to it.

You still have not clicked the links?

WOW!

It is FAA audio of the hijacking of flight 93 from air traffic control from Cleveland center.

Dusty, have you listened to the FAA tape from Air Traffic Control of the hijacking of flight 93?

Gonna add that to my sig soon, dusty. Clicky click!

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I take it that you want me to click on something? And if I click on it, I will hear a recording? Is this true?

If is it true, what evidence does this recording contain? How authentic is this recording? Are there any really good reasons to value this recording above all the other recordings out there?

What you need to know is that the 19 Arab conspiracy theory was the main conspiracy out there for a long time. I know the story. I haven't read every single thing out there written on it or listened to every single audio recording that is out there, but I do know all about the 19 Arab conspiracy theory.

I want you to tell me what I'm going to experience if I fulfill your desires and clicky clicky. Can you do this? Thanks.
 
You have mentioned an amazing thing, that I've been studying the WTC dust for so long and end up finding some 25 feet from my kitchen.

Think about it this way: When I was in graduate school, I had an entire year that did not produce results. 1996. I'm okay with it now, but it was frustrating at the time. I had to overcome some technical hurdles, and eventually I did, and things went smoothly after that.

One of the things I needed to obtain for my PhD thesis, and all the biological work I've done since then, are SAMPLES.

With respect to 9/11, I went to Ground Zero less than 3 days after the attacks, searching for samples. And all the people I've met since then whose homes got invaded by the dust or who survived the dust cloud, I ask them if they saved any of the dust. Every single time, they said no. They said they wanted to get rid of it, took showers, threw away their clothes, and in some cases they never went back to their apartments once they escaped!

8+ years passed. I did not stop my research. When I moved into the apartments, I wondered to myself if I was going to find some of the dust, and years later, I did. You could call it "luck" but there are things that weren't lucky that contributed to me finding these samples.

I insisted on living close to Ground Zero. Nothing could keep me away. I lived where I lived because in large part I am a 9/11 researcher. Another things is that I was prepared to succeed. I know my stuff. Not only are there many pictures online of the WTC dust, but I also saw it with my own eyes on concrete ledges. Went I went to Ground Zero, I saw the dust up on second story ledges and wished I could reach it. I saw what the dust looks like when it was deposited on concrete ledges, and that led me to recognize what I was seeing in a way that someone who hadn't prepared themselves perhaps would not have.

Only a 9/11 researcher would look at that "dirt pile" and know that it was WTC dust, and most 9/11 researchers would have failed, too, because the theories they are working on do not produce this type of dust. Explosive devices produce chunks of buildings when they are used to demolish buildings. Anyone who thinks explosives destroyed the WTC would have failed to recognize the dust for what it was.

Anther way I was prepared was the year 1996. The year of no samples. I know what it is like to work away on something without the physical object in hand. Me finding the dust all those years later is testimony to my extreme patience and determination.





chipmunk stew said:
I think it's rather an amazing serendipity that the smoking gun that will finally crack the mystery of 9/11 just happened to turn up in the residence of the top 9/11 investigator in the world. I mean, what are the chances???
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WTC Dust said:
You have mentioned an amazing thing, that I've been studying the WTC dust for so long and end up finding some 25 feet from my kitchen.

Think about it this way: When I was in graduate school, I had an entire year that did not produce results. 1996. I'm okay with it now, but it was frustrating at the time. I had to overcome some technical hurdles, and eventually I did, and things went smoothly after that.

One of the things I needed to obtain for my PhD thesis, and all the biological work I've done since then, are SAMPLES.

With respect to 9/11, I went to Ground Zero less than 3 days after the attacks, searching for samples. And all the people I've met since then whose homes got invaded by the dust or who survived the dust cloud, I ask them if they saved any of the dust. Every single time, they said no. They said they wanted to get rid of it, took showers, threw away their clothes, and in some cases they never went back to their apartments once they escaped!

8+ years passed. I did not stop my research. When I moved into the apartments, I wondered to myself if I was going to find some of the dust, and years later, I did. You could call it "luck" but there are things that weren't lucky that contributed to me finding these samples.

I insisted on living close to Ground Zero. Nothing could keep me away. I lived where I lived because in large part I am a 9/11 researcher. Another things is that I was prepared to succeed. I know my stuff. Not only are there many pictures online of the WTC dust, but I also saw it with my own eyes on concrete ledges. Went I went to Ground Zero, I saw the dust up on second story ledges and wished I could reach it. I saw what the dust looks like when it was deposited on concrete ledges, and that led me to recognize what I was seeing in a way that someone who hadn't prepared themselves perhaps would not have.

Only a 9/11 researcher would look at that "dirt pile" and know that it was WTC dust, and most 9/11 researchers would have failed, too, because the theories they are working on do not produce this type of dust. Explosive devices produce chunks of buildings when they are used to demolish buildings. Anyone who thinks explosives destroyed the WTC would have failed to recognize the dust for what it was.

Anther way I was prepared was the year 1996. The year of no samples. I know what it is like to work away on something without the physical object in hand. Me finding the dust all those years later is testimony to my extreme patience and determination.
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Phd? Research? I think not.
 
sts60 said:
Non sequitir. Conferral of a PhD generally indicates intellectual capacity, and clearly is of value for several reasons - a very straightforward example being all the jobs which require a PhD.

It's what one does with one's education that confers value. The OP has done nothing of value in the context of understanding the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, and is apparently promoting the same silly nonsense more than five thousand posts after it was pointed out that her initial premise (towers "turned to dust") was simply not true. Many other errors and invalid assumptions were made by the OP, and apparently - I put the poor crazy woman on ignore a long time ago - are still being made, but these are moot since the inital claim is completely wrong.



Straw man. What matters is relevant authority, applied correctly. The OP has little relevant authority, and furthermore made claims implying nonexistent authority in materials science, civil and structural engineering, firefighting, forensics, optics, aerodynamics, and probably a few others. Poor crazy Ms. Wood, to whom she appealed for intellectual cover in the form of some magic dustifying death ray, had more relevant expertise. But all that came from it was spectacularly silly claims, just like the OP, rendering any appeal to authority in that direction by the OP useless.



The OP made no sense, and is apparently still, lo these many pages later, repeating the same nonsense. I will agree, though, it's unseemly to continue to heap abuse on the mentally ill, so I have largely given this thread a pass. I just marvel that it's still going; it serves no purpose except to gratify the OP's ego.
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Dr. Wood
 
beachnut said:
Yes you are the best 911 truth researcher, you exceed all other 911 truth researchers.

Yes you proved you have me on ignore, I understand. Are you saying WTC dust is right, steel turned to dust? Or do you really have me on ignore?

She the best 911 truth investigator. I agree. Do you really support her claims of steel to dust? Do you know what she thinks cause the steel to go to dust?

I missed it, what did you say turned the steel to dust?

How does this dove tail with turning steel to dust?
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I was wondering what device she thinks cause all the steel to turn to dust, but then I realized ....

[qimg]http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll116/tjkb/wtclookingforThermitenotfound.jpg[/qimg]
Not dust. She is the best 911 truth researcher!
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Some steel survived the attacks relatively intact. Much of it is strangely damaged, like in the image you provided.

What I'm telling you is that most of the buildings were turned into foamy dust. Steel turned into foam. Not all of the steel, but yes, steel turned into foam.
 
Wakes are "left behind"? What do you mean by this? Haven't you ever been in a boat that stopped? The wake doesn't stop because the boat stops. The wake doesn't move up to the edge of where the boat stops and itself stops.

The 19 Arab conspiracy theory has got you all confused about the physical universe. Sad story.

Dash80 said:
I'm not confused Dusty I was just using a funny example, in response to someone else. It's you who looks dumb here not me.
Wakes are LEFT BEHIND not dragged along like some kind of trailer, you have been told this by many members who know what they are talking about, and quite a few who use logic and look things up.
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Did your family member save any of the dust?

Dash80 said:
Yes Dusty I was there, so was my brother-in-law. He was digging for survivors for days after the attacks. I remember 3 days after the attacks was the first day my sister was even able to get back in to her apartment. The dust was still everywhere, it was like walking through dry-powder snow getting to her building.
You were foiled how exactly? The dust covered the area.
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WTC Dust said:
Wakes are "left behind"? What do you mean by this? Haven't you ever been in a boat that stopped? The wake doesn't stop because the boat stops. The wake doesn't move up to the edge of where the boat stops and itself stops.

The 19 Arab conspiracy theory has got you all confused about the physical universe. Sad story.
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Oh, this will be fun: show me a wake ahead of a boat going forward, or stationary.
 
alienentity said:
And you wonder why people consider you to be a few cards short of a full deck.:rolleyes:
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You never heard me asking why this is. I know why. It's because of the nature of scientific discovery, is why.

You already believe something happened on 9/11 that didn't happen. That is you, and it's your problem.

When you encountered me, I had something else to say that didn't match with your erroneous preconceptions, and many people are instinctively offended by things that counter knowledge that they hold dearly to be true.

So I already KNOW why many of you have been verbally unkind. This isn't the first internet forum I've visited. I expected better debunking from you all, however, and have not gotten what I expected.
 
alienentity said:
Dr Blevins claims are basically nonsense. Her no-plane claims are illogical, scientifically illiterate and silly. Her 'no-hijacking' claims are essentially insane - they just do not square with basic reality. Her 'steel turned to dust and became a foam' is probably the pinnacle of this shark-jumping exercise - it's just plain crazy. She has not even tried to present an intelligent hypothesis as to how this 'foam' was created from steel, by some mysterious energy weapon!! Egads!

Dave Thomas is totally correct IMO, this is a Fail-athon of the highest order. 1443 posts from this person has failed to produce any real evidence to back the claims, and has instead exposed the level of self-delusion operating here.

Sad stuff, really.
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Calling me crazy isn't debunking the images I posted of multiple colors of WTC dust.
 
Porkpie Hat said:
It sounds more like a cop out than an explanation on why you refuse to act like a serious researcher with an understanding of the science behind determining the cause of the towers collapses.

David Blainn can make building disappear, you make a magnet dance.

wow...

Fe2O3.

And seriously, you act as if most laypeople are stupid.

Should we not expect to see rust nor rust like colours at ground zero?

Seems you're looking for ways to dupe the unexpecting rather than find the truth.

I've seen your website, there's nothing quantitative or qualititative on it.
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The color red is qualitative. That there are different types of dust is qualitative. That the dust can make a magnet move is qualitative.
 
16.5 said:
Well, Dusty, you asked for evidence of the hijacking which I have provided, and which you have refused to look at.

People are questioning your veracity, you would certainly expect them too, wouldn't you?

Dusty, have you listened to the FAA tape from Air Traffic Control of the hijacking of flight 93?
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I'm asking you to tell me specifically what the evidence is, and you seem hesitant to do this for some reason.


Just like I wanted you to circle what you say is plane debris on a jpeg taken from a screen shot.

So we can be sure that we are talking about the same thing.

If you tell me in words what evidence I'm supposed to look for, I might just click.
 
Kid Eager said:
You forgot step 1 - establishing that the dust came from the WTC and if it came from the WTC, the same vector that permitted its ingress magically prevented the ingress of other dust both before and after the event.

Scientific method is over there in the corner with a tear trickling down its cheek...
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Come on, I know you're there: your explanation is?
 
I don't have the entire truth, but what I'm saying is the truth.

I did find some very interesting material in a nook near Ground Zero.
This is the truth. It has more than one color. This is also the truth.

I don't have an answer to every question, but I'm not an expert on
every question. I'm a world wide expert on what destroyed the WTC.

Just like I was a world wide expert on beta-adrenergic receptors when
I was doing that sort of thing. Just like I'm an expert on heart valve anatomy, etc.

Becoming a research scientist is learning how to be an expert in something,
and I've been a research scientist for many years, technically before my
doctoral defense in 1999, but at least since then.

The Platypus said:
Weird how you try to flip everything around when your the one that came here to convert us, and now like a religious zealot, you demonize those that don't agree with you, because you and you alone have "the truth"....
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